Plus it is canon that you can change up your gt outfit at will without even needing to alchemize!
oh what, really? I don’t remember that. closest thing i remember is meenah’s ghost, but that kinda seemed like she just had those outfits pre-made during her session, or changed it up with ghost magics or w.e
come to think of it though, Vriska’s ancestral awakening thing is pretty similar to that in concept.
sure? canon hasnt said anything about this one way or another, so you can really justify anything on this front right now. Could just as easily say a male witch would have a different name while still occupying the same class function or whatnot.
at the absolute minimum, such a player would be able to alchemize their own versions of the outfit as much as they want. its fandom, so just have fun!
Let’s just hope. Hope that they aren’t confirmed to be gender-exclusive again. Because said exclusivity goes against the perfection and complexity of the rest of the system, making it so that the perfect class for someone would be discarded for simply the best gender-fitting one.
wuh? i mean, not that i disagree but is this an actual worry we’re having? We just got our first confirmed trans boy character in Lanque, I don’t think its likely we’re gonna start walking back on nuance with Class stuff unless viz really does try to mess with the writing of Homestuck/Hiveswap.
which, for the record, doesn’t quite seem to be happening right now.
there’s actually not that much to go into on this one. There’s a tweet rolling around somewhere of Hussie saying that girls could be Princes when he was asked, so at least for fan-content purposes, the gender rule is simply Word of God debunked.
There’s also stuff like how Jake seems to roleplay a Witch. Which is roleplay, but y’anno, its still an example of a boy interacting with a traditionally “girl” coded Class. Of course, Jake also deconstructs some toxic tropes typically linked to femininity.
So at the very least, there’s some ambiguity to how gender is parsed in Classpects built into the text itself. That said, while Classes don’t seem gender-locked, I do suspect that some if not all of them partly describe challenges and patterns that are commonly imposed on or associated with a particular gender.
So at most, I’d say they might maybe relate to cultural views on genders, rather than biological sex or chosen gender per se.
The difference between Heirs and Witches in particular strikes a chord with me here. Heirs have so far been boys, and are allowed immense power over their surroundings that they are scarcely aware of, and can easily perpetrate harm through unintentionally.
Juxtapose that against Witches, who’s power is initially linked to a seperate figure that can veto and control them–in the Handmaid’s case, a literal Patriarch who exploits her for his own purposes. Witches aren’t allowed to just have power–their power is subject to the whims of an authority, and they have to fight for the freedom to wield it.
I wouldn’t argue that that’s CANON gender subtext or anything–I am very much not an expert on this stuff, and I don’t think I’ve picked out enough canon text really pointing to that interpretation to be comfortable vouching for it.
I’m only saying that it resonates with me on that level, and it’s one of many potential ideas I consider about Classpects as I try to sift through what we do and don’t know, both in the text and in upcoming content.
This is one of those things I’m really curious to see explored further in future Homestuck content/Hiveswap in particular, since it seems like a likely focus for Lanque.
Not really. Personally, I find the very idea that he did tiresome, because people only ever seem to use it to downplay the canon dirkjake built into it.
As things stand, there’s just no real reason to think so from a writing perspective. Like yeah, ok, unreliable narrators are a thing in Homestuck. But that logic doesn’t really work to just discredit whatever point a character makes that happens to be contentious.
There has to be an in-character or in-universe reason for a character’s perspective to be discredited, or it’s just bad writing. And I don’t really agree Homestuck is written badly! You might know this about me by now.
So focusing in on Caliborn.
Caliborn is quite aware of the Alpha Timeline, and the role he plays in it. He’s also pretty much the only character who actually likes the Alpha Timeline, and revels in his coming existence as Lord English.
He’s explicitly okay with and willing to endure whatever negative consequences are necessary to get him to that point, and he thinks he and his actions across his timeline make him the hottest shit ever to grace paradox space.
There’s no real reason to think he’d knowingly lie about events in the Alpha Timeline–especially the events that result in the creation of Lord English–because Caliborn is on record as thinking all of that is RAD AS FUCK! Including Jake beating him up, since its what leads to Lord English having his very name.
This comes through in the Masterpiece. Caliborn is noticeably excited to share these events with the audience, and ultimately pleased with the result of the event–he’s using it as a form of self-aggrandizement.
So if someone tells me they think Caliborn is lying about the Masterpiece, my immediate question is how–and why? And most importantly, what is there in the story to contradict or replace the Masterpiece, if we can’t accept it as part of the story?
As of right now, there isn’t anything. I wouldn’t be surprised, for example, if the Epilogue happens to cover the Masterpiece or part of the Masterpiece, and follows the Beta kid’s release from the Juju and/or the Alpha kids being picked up by John after the end.
We were viewing the Masterpiece from Caliborn’s perspective, so there could definitely be more to see after his particular role in the story is finished. I just don’t think that means Caliborn was lying, per se.
This is kinda unrelated but I’ve been thinking about it so here we go. This is basically the same as people dismissing Calliope’s exposition on the Classes–in that a critical source of exposition on a certain area of the comic, with no equivalent anywhere else in the text, goes disregarded because of some hazy claim of “unreliability.”
Remember how I said there has to be a textual reason for such a source to be disregarded on a particular point? Homestuck actually does do this with gendered classes, so it’s a good example of what I’m talking about.
Yeah, Calliope says classes are gendered–but Calliope is explicitly as susceptible to biological essentialism as anyone else in the cast, believing she’s incapable of red romance just as John believed he was incapable of black.
Think what you will of the message, but by the endgame Homestuck is loudly stating that both views are inaccurate. Calliope’s ignorance is contextualized in the text.
That she’d make certain assumptions about gender makes sense–especially if she’s working her understanding of the classes off the sample sizes in Homestuck itself–which she explicitly is, and which explicitly do have gender biases.
But that doesn’t inherently discredit every other statement she makes, especially since without the exposition she provides it becomes ridiculously harder to prove anything about Classes as a system. Almost as if the author included that text as a source of important exposition or something.
Hi! I keep finding myself interested in brand new (to me) homestuck projects that i was never aware of, even though i’ve been in the fandom since 2013. So here I am, making a list of Homestuck related things still going on in the year of our lorde 2018. Most of these things have discords that are pretty cool and informative. You can most likely find them through the links given, but for some reason i don’t feel comfortable linking them here. May change that in the future.
Now, In no particular order…
Homestuck explained: Making Homestuck’s confusing nature accessible to a casual audience. Very high video quality and makes you think about how you never realized things…
Farragofiction: Overarching website that is home to great projects like Sburbsim (Sburb story generator), Wigglersim (Raise your own grubs in the brooding cavern!), Dollsim (Create homestuck sprites using like,,, a lot of parts. V. cool., and many other smaller projects!
MSPFA: Yep, it’s still a thing. Cool fanventures are still happening, and instead of linking them individualy, I’ll just put them all under the website. Explore, read, create your own fanventure, go nuts.
Playable text based version of sburb! pick your classpect, make sessions with friends, alchemise stuff, loot in dungeons, etc, etc, etc. Devs are currently overhauling the whole game, which is why the v2 website hasn’t updated much, but rest assured, it’s still A Thing ™. Plus v2, for what it is, is still extremely cool. (Playable with friends in a chain)
The Genesis project: Playable homestuck, basically. Create a character, explore your house, have a guardian, enter the game, fight monsters, alchemize cool weapons. Very close to the actual visual sprite style of homestuck but like,,,, you can run around and do things. (Playable with friends in a chain)
Sburbmon: A homestuck reskin of Pokemon fire red. Name your favorite characters dumbass names and go around as Andrew Hussie, making them strife. Almost every conceivable homestuck character is a playable mon you can add to your party.
Minestuck: A minecraft mod that adds Sburb to the game! Start out in a regular world, create a home base, and travel to the medium and explore your planet. In minecraft, ya’ll. (Playable with friends in a chain)
Fantroll Charity: A personal favorite, fantrolls are featured and people draw them/ make something for them, and you get to enter a raffel to have your fantroll be the next spotlight! Best case-senario there’s a new troll every week, but within the past couple of years it’s slowed down to once every few months because entries tend to be a bit slow. Hopefully this will help change that.