So when rose went grimdark she was role playing a witch of Void, and when Jane went crockerteir she was forced into the heir role. So what role was jade forced into when she was turned grimbark? Or am I misunderstanding the theory?

This question hits upon a lot of nuances that I’m not sure about myself, so I want to be clear that I don’t have this system figured out by any means. I think it’s consistent enough now that it’s worth talking about, just because there’s so many cases built up, but I don’t understand everything about how it works and I don’t want anyone to regard me as being particularly In The Know, here.

I’m figuring this out as I go along with everyone! And tons of times stuff that other people say sets off a cascade of new startling revelations. This is at least a weekly occurence lately.

So first up, as to Jade:

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It’s a possibility that Grimbark is just a joke/parody, so it’s hard to tell if this is just a joke/comment and she’s really only acting like a Witch. Which means I’m not sure, but if she’s roleplaying at all, I’d say her acting like a thief might be a solid bet. It’d mean she’s acting More Active than usual, which does line up with her behavior.

Gotta stress though: I don’t really know if this is a case where roleplay applies.
Rose got way longer, so she’s under the cut.


As for Rose, I’d say: In my view, not exactly, with the caveat that I’m honestly not sure here either?

I think Rose is roleplaying as a Witch, and I think she’s doing so partly because she imagines her mom as a Witch (Rose’s inability to really understand Mom is a key part of their conflict, after all). But there’s two important nuances I’d like to clear up:

1) It’s important to understand that Rose trying to be a Witch doesn’t mean she’s not being a Seer! It’s easiest to understand Roleplay as the characters adding Verbs/Archetypal symbols to their behaviors, with their true classes as intrinsic verbs they can’t change.

So Vriska can try to Make stuff and gets associated with Fairy-dom. She can discard that behavior, eventually. But she can’t discard her instincts to Steal/Take things, nor the associated outlaw/pirate imagery.

The same applies to Rose. She’s still a Prophet, and in many cases her Witch behavior acts in service to her prophetic behavior (using magic to tear the prophetic text she wrote into the Void, for example.).

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And as she’s also behaving more like an Active class, this also makes her more like an active Prophet. Indeed, Rose is also referenced as a Mage at least once.

I’m not sure what parts of this are actual references and what parts are me reading too much into things, though. I’m just saying the symbolism surrounding this stuff can get muddled, and I’m not enormously sure where the lines get drawn.

2) I don’t think she’s roleplaying a Witch of Void specifically. I think the Void stuff surrounding Rose is likely a side effect–the more she commits to the Witch persona, the more her powers manifest “in defiance of her true Aspect”.
And in Homestuck, powers manifesting that way generally tend to default to manifesting as the “opposing” Aspect.

In other words: Rose is just roleplaying a Witch, and aspect switching is what happens with any case of roleplay that’s unhealthy enough. Aspect “inversion” just seems to be the default, when that does occur.

At least, that’s the way I usually feel.

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But because of Xefros, Dammek, and Joey, I don’t really think that’s
necessarily the rule. So maybe the Void part is also Roxy’s influence
after all???

It wouldn’t quite be unprecedented. Hal–A Prince of Heart’s– emulation of Dave–A Knight of Time– includes him trying to take over the temporal logistics. So maybe that’s the case after all.

What I will say is that in one respect, it’s crucial to understand Rose as both a Witch of Light and a Witch of Void.

A Witch always has a Familiar, intrinsically linked to their Aspect:

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And how succesful they are at self-actualization is linked to how well they take control of their lives from their Familiar, which will protect them, but also try to  control them. Jade has Becquerel, a Space Familiar. Feferi has Gl’bolyb, a Life familiar.

In Damara’s case, that Familiar is literally a Patriarch–Lord English, an embodiment of Time itself. And unhappy, miserable, isolated Damara decides she wants to serve him completely.

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That’s why the Damara God Tier in the final army against him is such a
big deal, because it means a version of her succeeded in rebelling
against her familiar and asserting her true feelings.

Rose, then, has two Witch familiars, who work together to manipulate her.
Her familiars of Void are the Horrorterrors, of course. Interesting that to Feferi, Gl’bolyb is just a fact of life, a reality she has to deal with. To Rose, the horrorterrors represent the absolutely unknowable and unimaginable.

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Her Familiar of Light is Doc Scratch. It’s easy enough to say the Cueball represents omniscient knowledge, information, and so Light. But Scratch’s light coding goes quite a bit deeper.

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Doc Scratch is an alias for the Devil, or Lucifer. Lucifer is a fallen angel, known as the “Morning Star”, or “Lightbringer.” There are also a decent amount of historical references to Lucifer as a Prince of hell. And Scratch, it so happens, is predominantly made from the soul of AR–a Prince.

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He’s also Rose’s literal Patriarch, since being Dirk’s clone, he is technically her uncle. So yeah, I think  Rose’s relationship to Scratch and the Horrorterrors is more visceral and understandable that way, and I wouldn’t want that nuance to be lost because we’re still reading her exclusively as a Witch of Void.

There’s actually a LOT MORE nuance to Scratch’s presentation than I’m expressing here,(surprise! Scratch is also roleplaying!) but this post has to end sometime. So that’s it for now.

Everyone can feel free to send me whatever insights they have one way or another on either point, I just can’t say I have all the answers. I think I’m onto something here, but if I am we’re more than likely gonna uncover most of it together.

what-the-fuck-is-homestuck:

mamoru:

My post about being discriminated against by my substitute teacher landed on a College Humor list of “12 Tumblr threads that will make you chuckle gently”

This apparently happened in June 2017. I only found out last night.

Down at #9 is

this post, but the link they use goes to

I am extremely saddened by this. Not only did I never once think this situation was funny, but nobody contacted me that it was featured on their site.

The harassment, abuse, and trauma endured by disabled people was looked at by College Humor as being funny. I do not know why they link to my post with a screenshot of another, but someone saw my post and thought that it was appropriate to link in a humor article.

I am ill with incurable conditions that may kill me soon. I have been sick for a very long time and my health has ruined all of my hopes and dreams in life.

This event with my substitute is only a glimpse into an extremely traumatic school life of being yelled at for dying. I was isolated and harassed by my peers for doing so much as not looking disabled enough. For talking. For smiling. For using my legs. For being sad about being horribly ill when “other people have it worse”. I was doubted and harassed by teachers and staff growing up and have been discriminated against and harassed whenever I went out in public. I am completely isolated and alone. I am in pain every day and every night. I can rarely leave my home. I might die in the next few years. For my trauma to be exploited for profit by a company that claims to be funny is

I cannot describe this feeling. I feel like someone kicked me in the face. I try so hard to put my situation out there, to be open with my struggles, to reach out to anyone in hopes that someone can help me at all, and someone looks at my struggles, calls them funny, and then makes money off of them. I am literally dying. I am struggling to stay alive and a huge company looks at my struggles, laughs, and makes money off of it when I am absolutely desperate to make a single cent or have any opportunities or live any sort of fulfilling life with whatever time I have left

I am so alone

Here is my Ko-Fi

Here is a campaign to send me letters in the mail

I was up sick and in a lot of pain last night, so I Googled myself to see if anyone was linking my letter campaign. Looking for something comforting, you know? I found the opposite of people trying to help. I found a news outlet making fun of my trauma and exploiting it for profit.

I normally have a good time when websites link to something I do, but…

vampireapologist:

Being a good person is a choice. Don’t let people fool you into believing that truly good people never have bad thoughts, are never tempted by the easier path, by the low road, never mess up or act out selfishly. Never believe a person can be good without making a conscious effort.

Every single time you do something good, you’ve made a decision to make the world a little brighter.

Goodness is not an inherent trait, it is a choice. Keep making it! I see you, I’m proud of you, and I’m rooting for you!

LIVE-ACTION ROLEPLAY and
the IMPACT OF ANCESTORS

Pt. 2 – Horrorstuck & Active-Passive Shifting

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Alright, the key thing you need to know here is that Classes’ Active/Passive alignments borrow heavily from the concept of Yin/Yang. 
Yang is the Active principle, and describes the White swirl with the Black dot. Yin is the Passive principle, and describes the Black swirl with the White dot. 

To quothe the great source, Wikipedia:

Yin 陰 or 阴 Noun ① [philosophy]
negative/passive/female principle in nature 

Yang 陽 or 阳 Bound morpheme ① [Chinese philosophy] positive/active/male principle in nature 

Homestuck inverts the polarities, making Passive classes Positive (+) and Active classes Negative (-) for mysterious reasons. Other than that, the connotations are identical. 

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Now, Homestuck’s imagery will sometimes fall into this Two-Color character conflict style, and it will serve as our guide for this section. Notice that PM, who is colored in White, is the Active (or Yang) party in this shot–she is preparing to attack Bec Noir. Bec Noir, who is colored in Black, is the Passive (or Yin) party–he is hesitant and uncertain, stunned into inaction by shock. 

So we can roughly understand these color-contrast shots as follows:

If the character is colored in White, they are being Active.
If the character is colored in Black, they are being Passive.

Now let’s apply this logic to the trolls as the chaos of Horrorstuck plays out, and see what it tells us when combined with the concept of Roleplay.
Starting with this: The moment that Eridan kills Kanaya.

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Things start off pretty simple here. Eridan, the Prince, is in White.
Kanaya, the Sylph, is in Black. Prince is Active, Sylph is Passive, and as we all know, Eridan wins this round decisively, with a simple magic blast.

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What’s more interesting is how we got here. Eridan seems to be roleplaying a Magician for this stint–in particular, a Witch, influenced by his interest in Rose and Jade and said to be a “highly Active” Class. He tells Jade he’s moved on from following Dualscar’s destiny, just before trying to get Feferi to betray the team.

Dualscar is a Bard–a Passive class. This means that relatively speaking, Eridan is playing to his strengths as an Active Destroyer more by channeling his energy into a more Active role, explaining his firepower buff. But is it really that easy for Eridan to leave his ancestor behind…?

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Let’s come back to that question. Now let’s look at Gamzee, who for this stretch is living up to the image of the Grand High Blood–a Prince of Rage. 

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This section begins in earnest with Gamzee killing Equius, and–yup. There it is.
Gamzee, the Active party, is in white. Equius, the Passive party, is in black.
Equius submits to Gamzee’s will, and dies at his hands.

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Gamzee is terrifically effective at roleplaying the Grand Highblood–he goes on to set Terezi up to kill Vriska in a grisly re-enactment of Redglare and Mindfang’s showdown at the Grand Highblood’s order. But this rampage comes at a personal cost. 

Gamzee is incredibly unstable during this period, with the whole loud honking and red eyes thing. Insofar as we’re allowed into his head, Gamzee does not seem particularly comfortable or at ease in this role! It’s only once Karkat calms him down that he reverts to his more Passive role, and begins acting like his normal self again.

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So we’ve got two instances of Active behavior linked to White, and Passive behavior linked to Black. We’ve also seen that roleplaying can explain how Gamzee changes from his traditional role of Passive destruction, to one of Active destruction–at a personal cost.

Now let’s look at an example that incorporates both Yin/Yang and Roleplay for both parties, in the conclusion of the 3x Showdown between Eridan, Vriska and Gamzee.

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Of course, we’re actually interested in Kanaya, who turns out to dominate this fight utterly. Kanaya is one of the few highbloods who seems completely uninterested in roleplay. But then, in this context, maybe she doesn’t have to be.

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Vriska suggests that a player’s destiny is tied to their Ancestors’, and while this definitely involves an element of “choosing to take on the life they left for you”, it also seems to have Karmic implications.

The Dolorosa, after all, is interwoven in the story of The Grand Highblood, Mindfang, and Dualscar–she becomes Mindfang’s slave, and is murdered by Dualscar.

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Despite his claims to having moved on from Dualscar’s legacy, in this flash, Eridan is cast in his shadow. Meaning he’s being placed in the role of a Passive player, in the context of this sequence.

So Kanaya isn’t just getting revenge for Eridan’s crimes–there’s an implication she’s making up for Dualscar’s cruelty to her Ancestor, as well. Finishing what Dualscar started, so to speak. The Dolorosa being a Maid, we can understand Kanaya as roleplaying a Maid of Space.

And a Maid of Space is one who Makes Space

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For her own benefit. 
Bard is Passive is Black.
Maid is Active is White.

A couple side notes:

1) Kanaya, like Gamzee, seems pretty drained after her spurt of intense Active behavior. Roleplaying as a more Active class can be effective in the short term, but it also seems pretty exhausting, as a general rule of thumb.

2) Given that Kanaya is revived as a Rainbow Drinker–a creature of fantasy–and that she glows pure Hope-White, we could even read Eridan here as inviting his own destruction through Hope. Just one of those little things I find so satisfying with Homestuck.

3) Relating Kanaya with the Dolorosa like this gives us some extra nuance with which to understand Vriska’s flash of red feelings for her. She related to Eridan and Tavros primarily in the terms set by their ancestors, after all–small wonder she’d find Kanaya more exciting as she completed her own Ancestor’s work, as well. 

I found this pretty exciting once it came together for me, so I hope it does for you too. Let me know what you think! That’s all for now. 

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