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Someone made a post about how Joey and Jude may not actually die when sburb happens. Was it you? (And if so, can you please link that post?)

seems likely other people have talked about it besides me, but i have certainly done a video or two on that subject since I literally don’t think theres any chance they’ll actually die permanently at all:

This is on how I think the likeliest scenario is that Hiveswap’s heroes will escape to Earth C in the end, probably bringing most or all of these doomed trolls with them.

This one is on why I think its likely that Pa/Grandpa set things up to save Joey and Jude, or enable them to do…something? that would “Save the world”.

Simply put, I think the idea of Hiveswap having a tragic ending is antithetical to Homestuck and Hiveswap’s themes, and allowing them such a fate runs completely counter to Grandpa’s character. It’s easy to get lose it in the weeds because of what a shitty dad he is, but we’re still dealing with a genuine Hero, here, even if he’s a tragic one.

I don’t know if anyone has pointed this out yet? But you know how at the end of Act 6, we can see Jake and Dirk catching up, Dirk having his hand behind his head? Well I remembered much earlier Lil Hal had said: “I will not hold one tentative hand behind my head like a flustered asshole from an Asian cartoon, nor will an oversized bead of sweat overlap ludicrously with my visage” when talking to Roxy about Dirk planning to confess to Jake. :O

yep! Lil Hal was wrong about Dirk because he perceives Dirk as the same teenager he was at 13, who Lil Hal still was in some ways. Dirk proper has grown up since then.

also i love that scene its cute

revolutionaryduelist:

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Tetrarch Dammek is already one of Hiveswap’s most controversial characters, and he hasn’t even said a word yet. Lets see what we can learn about him using Classpects as a lens, and in the process explore how, and why, Alternia became the hellworld Joey comes to know.

I know I’ve been rather soft on him here, but let’s be clear: Dammek still really sucks for Xefros. Here’s hoping Xefros will learn to stand up for himself and Dammek will learn to treat his friends better during this adventure!

Today’s question: Do you think trolls who commit cruel deeds like Dammek, Trizza, Ardata and Zebruh are completely damned, even if they could never freely choose to be better?

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About your Dammek video, how do you think the title Tetrarch plays a role? Tetrarch is a (Roman) governer, and perhaps Dammek could be emulating a Roman Tetrach (Similar as to how Dave is closely linked to King Arthur)?

I’m not entirely sure! This is one of the few things that initially had me weighing Prince/Bard more heavily, which still seems possible, though I haven’t seen any use of the Destroy verb with Dammek yet.

That said it’s worth noting that Homestuck tends to dabble in Greek mythology more often than Roman, and the Greek meaning of Tetrarch is that of the leader of a unit of warriors split into four files, or lines.

Read this way, Tetrarch becomes Warrior coding rather than Royalty coding, which means I can simply consider it another outlet for Dammek’s Knight roleplay, since the Knight/Page archetype includes military service roles as much as Butler-style service.

This also suggests it’s an explicitly unhealthy title for him, as much as the Butler role is. So that’s what I’m running with right now.

I know you’ve speculated on the Hiveswap kids classpects previously but I’d like to ask you this: What classpects would you give the four kids if you stick to the theory that their classpects are composed from the unused classes/aspects between the Betas and Alphas? Mage, Thief, Sylph and Bard and Blood, Mind, Doom and Rage respectively. (Also can you ignore the class-gender lock for this ask if you don’t do so already as it shoehorns Sylph onto Joey otherwise.) P.S. Love your theory work.

creamcloud0:

revolutionaryduelist:

The trouble with this ask is that it completely goes against my methodology.
I build my guesses for classpects very directly from what I believe are deliberate cues built into the text-Archetype associations, key verb usage, etc. I’m speculating, sure, but I’m not doing so based on broad themes.

Xefros and Dammek are explicitly Rage and Blood respectively, we know this. That leaves Doom and Mind for Jude and Joey. It seems to me Jude has strong Doom imagery, which could be roleplay, so he might in truth be a Mind player.
But Joey’s imagery is split between Light and Life, so there’s no Doom or Mind for me to work with there atm.

It’s always possible the stuff I’m picking up on is wrong, or a red herring. But as my view of the text stands right now, I just don’t see how it breaks down this way. And I don’t particularly feel its necessary, given that we’re getting classpects with every single troll call troll.

If that’s what you think then that’s fine by me but I’d like to add my own opinions onto this too for anyone who wants to hear them, Having seen your recent Dammek video I would have to say I agree with your conclusion of him being a Thief of Blood while I’m of the opinion that Jude may infact be a Mage of Mind, Joey as a Bard of Doom (Destruction of Doom possibly giving you your Life imagery) and Xefros a Sylph of Rage.

That’s cool! I actually wouldn’t be surprised to have Jude turn out to be a Mage of Mind, since I already parse him as a Know class.

What would trip me up with Joey as a bard is that I’d expect to see A) use of the “destroy” verb somewhere in Hiveswap’s text, and B) an association with royalty or aristocracy.

In archetypal terms, I’ve seen Joey instead be linked to Magic, whether via her wizard themed dances, affinity for magical girls, or her animal posters. This makes either Maid/Sylph (Fairies) or Heir/Witch (Magicians) seem likely to me.

So I’m currently inclined to think she’s either a Maid, or an Heir roleplaying a Maid.

Conversely, if Xefros were a Sylph, I’d expect him to be linked to magic and/or fairies or some kind of imaginary being, be it a demon, elf, angel, or some other kind of fae. I’d also expect to see some usage of the make/create verbs.

I haven’t presently noticed either, but I could be missing something, and of course this is only my own methodology. A diversity of approaches can only be a good thing, imo! Best to keep an open mind, considering it’s starting to seem likely this stuff will factor into Hiveswap’s puzzle elements to me.

I know you’ve speculated on the Hiveswap kids classpects previously but I’d like to ask you this: What classpects would you give the four kids if you stick to the theory that their classpects are composed from the unused classes/aspects between the Betas and Alphas? Mage, Thief, Sylph and Bard and Blood, Mind, Doom and Rage respectively. (Also can you ignore the class-gender lock for this ask if you don’t do so already as it shoehorns Sylph onto Joey otherwise.) P.S. Love your theory work.

The trouble with this ask is that it completely goes against my methodology.
I build my guesses for classpects very directly from what I believe are deliberate cues built into the text-Archetype associations, key verb usage, etc. I’m speculating, sure, but I’m not doing so based on broad themes.

Xefros and Dammek are explicitly Rage and Blood respectively, we know this. That leaves Doom and Mind for Jude and Joey. It seems to me Jude has strong Doom imagery, which could be roleplay, so he might in truth be a Mind player.
But Joey’s imagery is split between Light and Life, so there’s no Doom or Mind for me to work with there atm.

It’s always possible the stuff I’m picking up on is wrong, or a red herring. But as my view of the text stands right now, I just don’t see how it breaks down this way. And I don’t particularly feel its necessary, given that we’re getting classpects with every single troll call troll.

NEOKOSMOS – Chapter 21 (Caught up to the webcomic!) | Shelby + Amber Cragg on Patreon

neo-kosmos:

Guys, this is a big one! We’re finally posting the chapters that continue the story we saw in the webcomic. Though there have been plenty of changes and edits to the webcomic material in this novelization, from here on out patrons will be seeing totally new scenes!

If you don’t want to pledge, don’t worry. The novel will be available in its completed form when it is complete. (My current estimate for that is 2019, but don’t quote me on that — Shelby) Thank you everyone for supporting us as we tell this story!

that’s so exciting! Congrats!!! icant wait til I can hop onboard and catch up to the story’s uncharted territory! 😀

NEOKOSMOS – Chapter 21 (Caught up to the webcomic!) | Shelby + Amber Cragg on Patreon

Here’s a compilation of screencaps of the Friendsim trolls who’s loose Aspect traits I included in the Dammek video.

The Friendsims are seriously underrated. Not only are we learning about how Alternia’s brutal systems affect trolls on the ground level all over the hemospectrum, but pretty much every troll so far has included links to both their True Sign aspect and the aspect associated with their Blood Caste.

So far, this seems to lends credence to @wakraya‘s theory of the Blood Caste-Aspect link, which is pretty exciting! It’s hard to say how this dual-Aspect tension is meant to resolve, but I definitely can’t wait to learn more in Act 2 and future Friendsims.