What do you do when you find someone that refuses to talk to you because you had different headcanons about classpects?

It’s not really just classpects, in my case. My reading of homestuck runs counter to the norm in a lot of respects–liking the ending, the gnostic symbolism I mention with the Tricksters/Lord English, considering the alphas the best part of the narrative…

I run into disagreements about Homestuck on a lot of fronts, with a lot of people.
I usually just drop the subject. I’m pretty busy, so its a lot more effective to put the effort in elsewhere. And no one has to agree with me about anything, you know? This is all for fun.

May I ask your thoughts on Hal’s classpect? I think he’s an interpretation of a Prince of heart while I’ve heard many argue Prince of mind and even a few arguments for knight of heart. What do you think?

I think he’s a prince of heart roleplaying a knight in imitation of Dave, just like Dirk, since…he’s a Dirk. He destroys Heart (forcing Dirk’s suicide in Unite Synchronize) to serve his Self to Jake (offering Jake Dirk’s head/his own self, encased in the glasses).

His roleplay may be intense/unhealthy enough that he echoes Mind (and/or maybe Time, during Unite Synchronize? since he does mention managing temporal logistics) but that doesn’t mean he’s not a Heart player.

And I don’t feel confident enough in my understanding of either Mind/Heart symbolism or of how, exactly, roleplay/Aspect shifting work to say for sure right now. Maybe Hiveswap will lead us to know more, but “Prince of Heart roleplaying Knight” is as specific as I’m willing to get.

I think AR’s existence as Scratch backs up that reading.
Knights’ serving of others gets them likened to Butlers, and Scratch is basically the best butler of all. Scratch easily parses as any combination of Prince/Knight and Light/Space, imbued as he is with First Guardian abilities and cueball omniscience.  And that’s before we take into account the other souls he’s linked to, of course–but still, AR’s Class predilections seem to be there.

I’m sorry. I know I ask questions all the time but I really want to know. When Jake had to kiss Dirk’s head and he said “I guess if It was going to go this way. there was stuff I wanted to say, to the real him I mean” what do you think he wanted to say? This is probably a stupid question but If It’s not please tell me what you think (btw if you think Im getting annoying with the whole “i hope i dont embarrass mysel” thing just tell me and I’ll try to stop worrying so much)

Hard to say! Probably Jake would have questions and a lot of conflicting emotions. These are all things Jake could reasonably want to talk about around that point:

-Stuff about how grateful Jake is for Dirk’s help over the years

-Venting his frustrations about the AR

-Wanting to apologize or at least talk about the jokes he made about Dirk only being a good fit for him if he was a girl, which Jake was aware coulda messed with Dirk’s feelings

-Wanting to make sure Dirk even actually likes him, since Jake mentions he’s not even sure about that half the time and later complains to Jane that Dirk can’t ever seem to just relax and enjoy his company

-Any combination of the above.

In the end it seems he talked about none of it while they were dating. Seems likely they sorted things out by the time of the Masterpiece, though.

So i’m watching the video and you called the beds with the lunar crypts Quest Crypts? but weren’t they referred to as Sacrificial slabs by calliope?

Yeah, they’re held inside the moon crypts so I kinda got a bit muddled and messed up that detail. I included the Calliope quote where she calls them sacrificial slabs once I noticed, though, which should help those curious enough to care about it, I hope.

Sometimes I have to leave minor errors in if they simply involve too much manpower to correct, as it wouldve been to rerecord that whole section to fix that bit.

HSE: God Tiers

In this episode, we take a closer look at the God Tier power-up system, and its various perks. I also make a case for understanding God Tier powers as being an innate inner power of the players, manifested through their wills and thoughts, rather than a power-up granted to them by the game.

This means I argue that every character uses their Classpect powers throughout their lifetimes, whether or not they actually make God Tier. It also means a player can develop God Tier-level powers without actually being God Tier.

God Tier tends to grant players power because experiencing the messianic death and rebirth of the heroes’ journey tends to make people feel more like heroes, and so more able to self-actualize–NOT because doing so arbitrarily unlocks their superpowers. In other words, I argue God Tier is a shortcut to Heroes’ inner potential–not a requirement for it.

This warrants a closer look at examples of characters in Homestuck typically considered not to be good “examples” of their Hero Titles. I provide some examples of how I understand such characters, as well–including Karkat, Nepeta, and Gamzee.

Lastly, this understanding ties Homestuck’s take on psychic powers to that of it’s namesake, Earthbound–and suggests the possibility that Hiveswap’s characters could well develop God Tier-like powers, too.

Please feel free to discuss and question these ideas in the comments. I’m sure we’ll be revisiting your responses sooner or later, and I’m very curious as to how this video will be received. Thanks for reading, and keep rising!

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HSE: God Tiers

Apotheosis and Creation Myth

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After over a month of work, this is finally ready. 

This is in many ways my final statement on Homestuck as a whole, and though I don’t go over absolutely everything related to the ending here, I am pretty confident it’ll make at least some people reconsider how upset they are with the ending. 

I’d like to thank @olive-the-olive and @finalvortex for beta reading for me, as well as @joyceanfartboner, @kajy, and @fragilesoftmachines earlier on. You were all rad! 

I’d also like to thank (and tag) a number of writers who made writing this possible. @bladekindeyewear, @stormingtheivory, @wakraya, @purplepurpleunicornsparkle, as well as  @mikerugnetta who’s video about Violence proved to be instrumental, and finally Tex Talks, who doesn’t have a tumblr but is still one of the most fascinating voices in Homestuck analysis today, and you should really be following his work. 

I’ll let the piece speak for itself. My deepest wish is that it will help people unhappy with the ending feel better, but if you find my arguments unsatisfying on some level, please let me know. I’d love to engage with discussion about this pretty much 24/7. 

“If a tree falls and no one hears the sound, did it fall at all? Homestuck’s answer is not only that it didn’t, but that without someone present to witness the forest at some point in its existence, the forest does not exist at all. Reality is pointless and redundant without someone to experience it, to the point that it’s impossible to differentiate whether or not it even EXISTS if an observer isn’t present.”

Yes, YEEEEEEES. This article comes as close as I’ve ever seen to hitting upon the way I relate to the monster of a webcomic that is Homestuck: an examination of a cultural moment in which reality seems more kaleidoscopic than ever, which posits connections between quantum physics and religion and mythology. All this, all thiiiiis, is how Homestuck helped me with my existential anxiety and dread and gave me a means by which to reconcile my unforgivingly rationalist world view with my spirituality, which I’d completely lost till then.

When I begin to fear the death of humanity, I think about this comic. These ideas motivate my creative work. They make me care about living.

A+++, please read this.

This is super old but seeing someone respond to the post that started this whole adventure for me is lile this is…moving. It reminds me why I started talking about Homestuck like this, and how much more I still want to do. Thank you.

PS: I’m laughing at past me’s immense hubris in claiming that post was a final statement on Homestuck. My my. How far we’ve come.

Apotheosis and Creation Myth

Im really curious, how do you think hiveswap will incorporate SBURB into its story? I know hussie wants the story to be “self-contained”, so it may just stay in lore rather than direct plot.

I kinda doubt we’ll be exposed to Sburb much directly unless the ending really does go the “escape into Sburb” route, which i find relatively unlikely. so i do think itll probably stay in the lore for the most part.

That said i think we’ll be learning a lot about aspects and probably classes too, since I don’t think those are exclusive to Sburb. As i’ll be making clear in…oh, about an hour.