ive already written a ridiculously long post on Jade. I’ve also covered Dave, John, Rose and others under the guise of classpects. When I do actual analysis content really focused on the betas it’ll probably be in video form as part of Homestuck Explained, where I eventually hope to cover everyone, as seen on the Homestuck Explained video map:
Tho there are things I want to cover eventually like Davekat, late-game Rose, and other stuff more specifically.
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Sure, maybe? If the story continues with the epilogue and beyond they could just get closure on their own terms, too. We’ll have to wait and see!
I can totally see that, and still think its a real possibility!
What tips the scales for me is the Archetypal background I typically associate with each Class. Prince is a Royalty class, which implies some kind of high/noble birth or status, and an internalized sense of superiority over others that the Royal must overcome to take control of his ego, and so his destructive power.
The Makaras and Amporas are the highest blooded members of the hemospectrum short of the Fuschias, and both Meenah and Feferi keep themselves rather seperate from the idea of actually being better than others due to their class–both of them renounce the title of Heiress and abandon the throne, one way or another.
The AR considers himself “above” his friends because he is a post-singularity AI, and often makes statements positioning himself as “above” their corporeality. So on.
Thief is an outlaw class, which implies being removed, outcast, or alienated from society and its rules. Nepeta and Vriska both consider the hemospectrum irrelevant, for example.
All Thieves and Rogues spend some amount of time either literally living outside mainstream society (Nepeta’s cave, Rufioh’s lost weaboos tribe, Meenah living on the moon) or thinking about living outside of it (Vriska’s fascination with Piracy).
The latter sounds a lot more like Dammek to me–living on the fringes of society in his own rebel network, a network that’s apparently robust enough to provide him with a shitload of loot and goods he wouldn’t otherwise have access to. Feels a lot more like Vriska’s hoard, gathered through roleplay exploits, than it does like Eridan’s born wealth and status.
Also Dammek is referenced using the “take” verb in Act 1, and I haven’t noticed him being linked to Royal verbs like “Destroy” or “Break” just yet. That said he is a noted revolutionary, and I’ve been thinking revolution/revolutionaries could be conceptually linked to the Royal classes for a while.
So I really do think its a possibility! I think it’ll become clearer as we figure out what makes Dammek tick. i want…more hiveswap
I’d say Light, I think? Spot on with the Lord, though.
Thing about Gwyn is that, like Caliborn, he’s also a take on the figure of the Demiurge. Yaldabaoth was somewhat of a Gnostic criticism of the Christian “angry, jealous” god, but he’s really just a version of the Patriarch Sun/Sky god.
There’s plenty of those in mythology, and Caliborn at least relates to several, it seems to me–the Egyptian god Ra, and the Greek patriarch Zeus, for starters.
Zeus is particularly interesting because the idea of the Demiurge originally surfaced in Greek philosophy, and Zeus himself was considered one such figure.
And Gwyn, with his lightning bolts and assorted pantheon, resembles Zeus more than any other fictional figure. Like all Demiurges, he’s a commander as much as a direct threat–he makes the world of Dark Souls what it is, even as he either exploits or degrades basically every single character in it.
A Lord to a T–in true Caliborn style.
(Not saying all Lords are necessarily evil or bad, btw. The Demiurge is just an interpretation of the archetype that emphasizes the Lord’s flaws and the consequences of their power, and stories that lean on the idea to explain why the world is so wrong obviously cast the Lord in a murky light.
Lots of people could point to stories of Lords who they consider positive figures, too–like ofc, the Lord God in Christianity. And that’s totally ok and just as valid–different stories will employ and interpret Archetypes in different ways, because archetypes themselves are just character patterns we recognize. They are absent of morality in and of themselves, I think.)
listen if it has lore i’m in for it
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