I offer one proposal: all of the Strilondes bone aliens. But ah, what is of Dirk? Well, Jake always loved Avatar…

i’ve been manning the “JAKE ENGLISH’S HOPE POWERS WILL DEFINITELY ENABLE CANON TRANSFORMATION MAGIC ON EARTH C, THUS USHERING IN A GOLDEN ERA OF JAKE BEING ABLE TO TURN INTO A NA’VI AND AN ENTIRE EARTH C FURRY DEMOGRAPHIC” station basically since i started this channel

whens it gonna happen! im waiting for you hussie plz begin my life!!

If Karkat is a tsundere, does that make Dave a kuudere?

Maybe? I saw someone rightfully point out Kankri parses as a himedere in that context, lol, i don’t know that much about these tropes tbh.

If we’re talking about how canon presents Dave, he’s “supposed” to be the heroic male hero. Personally, if I were to apply one of these to him it’d be “moe through helplessness”

What do you think Tagora’s Classpect is? I was thinking he could be a Thief because he takes your money through “vaguely worded yet stringently binding documents,” but he could also be a knight, since he offers you his “services,” and, as angel-of-double-death says, he doesn’t seem to enjoy talking, so his charisma could be seen as a facade, which Knights seem to be prone to. He might be connected to both through Class Roleplay, though.

i honestly havent been able to play it yet, but i saw at least one “break” or “destroy” reference in a screenshot and he seems based on like, your Light Yagami (Death Note) and Lelouch (Code Geass) types in anime, who tend to be Royal/Destruction classes. So I’m inclined to think Prince or Bard.

Again though, pure guess. My instinct is to consider the “service” motif Knight roleplay too–Terezi was one of Homestuck’s most intense roleplayers in her emulation of Mindfang, after all.

But I haven’t seen a teal blood seem to roleplay much outside Terezi! Tagora’s the most substantial one we’ve seen directly yet short of Terezi herself, as cool as Latula’s two versions are.  Since I’m not really sure how the class system on alternia is delegated to the different blood castes, I’m not entirely sure thats whats going on. 

More to come when I actually get to play it but I’m busy getting this last gamzee video done. Should be switching focus to Hiveswap for a while after that, though.

Should be fun 🙂

I looooove your videos. But you pronounce so many things differently than I do! Maybe it is a regional thing? I’m from south east usa. You even pronounce some of the Greek words differently than I do!!!

i literally learned English MOSTLY just by reading books, anime, and playing english video games/Very Anime Jrpgs in particular. I pronounce a lot of things very weird as a result. I’m basically learning to polish my language as I do this series just because I keep hearing about the words that throw people off lol

You know, karkat really is the exact opposite of bro I think. Bros anger was quiet and violent while karkat yells a lot but never gets physical; bro seems to have no emotions while karkats are so loud and obvious you couldn’t misunderstand if you tried; bro sneaked around the house, silent like a predator, karkat is literally yelling at all times, etc etc. I think this inability to be ambiguous must be a relief to dave :,)

yuuup. One way to parse it is that Bro, like Yaldabaoth, is an agent of seemingly “thoughtless” action–all powerful over materiality but too blind to ideas/emotions to know what to do with that power.

Karkat, by contrast, exerts his power entirely THROUGH feeling and thought. His voice is his strength because he’s able to move and help people through it–much like Abraxas itself talked at length about every detail of Karkat’s own psyche to him.

Parallels!

So… How exactly Pearson archetypes correspond to Homestuck classes? Did you solve the system so to speak?

Anon is referring to this list of archetypes, for those unaware:
http://www.uiltexas.org/files/capitalconference/Twelve_Character_Archetypes.pdf

I don’t know that I solved the system, or that there’s even something to solve. But I do think looking at what each archetype says about different personality types is quite illuminating in seeking out what each Class suggests about the player’s personality.

Far as I can tell, they line up roughly, with some areas of overlap and some archetypes that seem to apply to one or two classes simultaneously–usually Active/Passive pairs, notably.

But I’m not exactly 100% sure the one is based on the other at the moment. It’s close enough to be extremely useful to me, but messy enough that I’m not inclined to call it literal canon.

Also, it’s worth noting Roleplay blurs the lines on the Class end. IE: When a player roleplays a Rogue, they end up taking on traits/struggles associated with the Lover. Rose and Tavros both do this at different points.

Here’s a list, as I see it:

Innocent-Page
Orphan-Knight
Lover-Rogue
Seeker-Thief

Warrior-Prince
Destroyer-Bard
Creator-Maid
Caregiver-Sylph

Sage-Mage, Seer
Magician-Heir, Witch
Ruler- Muse, Lord, weirdly the Witch kinda jives with some traits here too
Fool/Jester- Bard/Heir, which is pretty odd too. But then, John and Gamzee are both explicitly linked to fools and jesters quite notably, so as odd as it is, it lingers.

real talk though, i’m not sure what a “choice” from yaldaboath would be but I’m 90% sure that if Dirk HAD confronted him late game, he would’ve chosen the “not fight yaldaboath” choice. Not because he couldn’t kill yaldaboath(quite the opposite), the “other” choice would probably be REALLY HARD too. Dirk would legit think it’d be the most beneficial, and everyone would be fucking shocked. Imagine Dave, “you had the hardest denizen? so you killed it right… no? What.” It’s just so unlike bro.

i kinda think the fact that dirk deliberately steered himself away from the legacy of Bro/Caliborn/LE is exactly why he never got to face Yaldabaoth in the first place. the more of a Denizen’s Choice a player embraces, the more they seem to fulfill said Denizen’s mythological arc.

The legacy of Yaldabaoth is quite literally the legacy of Lord English–the former is a symbol of the latter. But Alpha Dirk proper is charting his own destiny, apart from that doomed recursive loop. Yaldabaoth no longer has sway over his story.