Also can i say that all of these asks have been sent by the same person and i would just talk to you about it on messaging bc that would be easier except you don’t follow me so it won’t let me message you ;n; rip me guess I’ll be a random anon forever

wha just message me off anon or hit me up on discord im practically always down to talk about this stuff. 

not being as quick to answer asks now tho cause im wrapping things up here for my flight tomorrow 

if you consider void, in the broadest sense, to be nothingness, that nothingness isn’t inherently physical and tangible, it doesn’t have to be. If apathy doesn’t fall into hope or rage, it could fall under void’s domain because it is an inherent lack of something, in this case caring. Maybe void is just defined by absense.

Makes sense to me, yeah. Which I guess brings us back around to Void contrasting everyone which…rip. I promise I’m not trying to be obtuse and cyclical I just…am continually reassessing and changing my mind about this stuff, it’s so fascinating and cool though im glad people are sending me asks and talking about it xD

well with that logic, everything could be defined by a lack of void, but I don’t really think thats what we’re supposed to get from it. Thee’s more to it than that, of course. And the reason the aspects tangle more than that is because every aspect is intrinsically related to every aspect in some way. For example, time and doom both deal with death, light and mind both deal with knowledge. that overlap creates situations where multiple aspects work together to create all the nuances of a concept

i think that escaped my inital point somewhat but it’s far more interesting territory to discuss just how exactly every aspect relates to all the others, more than just its opposite

I agree completely, yeah. I figured Time and Space were standouts re: Void just because they describe physical dimensions, if that makes sense? Like. Destroying Space doesn’t really create Time, and in the Furthest Ring the absence of one means the other is also non-existent. 

But if someone’s Hope is destroyed, it doesn’t typically result in “nothingness”–it results in negative emotions. Either fear, despair, sorrow, or Rage, or so on. All of that stuff is under Rage’s purview, and so it makes sense for me to say the absence of Hope is Rage to a degree, and vice versa. 

Do you see what I mean by Time and Space not necessarily having that relationship? It seems different in a subtle way. 

Hey in terms of abstract aspects forming the universe, what would you say to the idea that the presence of each aspect is defined by the lack of its opposite? E.g. The presence of void is the absence of Light and vice versa. It works better with some aspect opposites than others, but i think you could make a case for each.

I think that’s pretty much baked into the Ying/Yang existential duality concept that both the Classes and the Aspects revolve around, so yeah, I agree.

I think it’s probably more complicated than a simple conflict between the two “paired” complementary forces, though. For instance, this isn’t really true about Time and Space at all–Void would define both of those forces in contrast instead. 

There are definitely some cases where this is true, basically, but if the twelve aspects are elements of thought that describe all of reality in unison, it’s likely there’s contexts where they’re paired or related in infinite different ways. So I do think it’s useful to think more broadly than “X always marks Y”, if I’m making any sense at all? 

I just wanted to thank you, because of you I started to have warmer feelings about Jake and see that we’re pretty similar and I think being selfish isn’t necessarily bad. I’m a selfish person and as long as I don’t hurt others I’m good with this trait of mine. I can do good things having selfish motives and it’s ok. I used to be mad at Jake but your reading of him gives me more understanding of his actions and I can relate to him. I also love Dirk and now I feel comfortable shipping them again.

Aw dang this made me get all weepy for a bit. I’m glad I was able to help! Encouraging people to fall in love with these characters all over again is pretty much why I decided to start doing this so it always makes my day and renews my determination when I hear someone else is enjoying the story more as a result of my writing. 

And yeah I don’t really think being selfish or self-focused is necessarily bad. Being aware of one’s own tendencies is a good thing, especially if you can be honest enough about them to know when you need to course correct (and that can happen in either direction.) 

I was thinking about the god tiers and I realized something, knights and seers seem to be inherently related. I honestly don’t know if you noticed this, I haven’t been following you very long, but we’ve got three example pairs of this, Rose and Dave, Terezi and Latula, and Karkat and Kankri. I can’t exactly figure out if this signifies anything though

I have noticed it, but if it has particular significance, I’m not aware of it either. It’s something I think about every so often. 

It makes a fair degree of sense, though. the way i read knights, they tend to serve others quite often. Seers transmit information to others and tend to send others on quests/work through them. It makes sense to think they’d work well as a pair, since Seers need others willing to follow their instructions, and Knights are willing to do so quite often.

i always thought the shoe colours were the colour of their opposite aspect? like daves (time) shoes are grey/black = space, dirks (heart) are green = mind, its been a while so i dont remember if it was like that for everyone..

It def doesn’t match Aspect consistently–Rose’s shoes are breath blue, for example. Vriska’s boots are red, too. 

I don’t really think there’s a consistent pattern to the shoes or anything tbh i just think its a cute lil thing. It MIGHT be the case with dirkjake and you could make an argument for (Vriska) and (Terezi) sharing an enjoyment of red shoes leading them to a red quadrant with one another, too–since Terezi taking Jade’s shoes has so much focus and (Vriska) also wears red boots–but that’s the extent of my thoughts on the matter. 

But like that doesn’t mean that the True Mark of a Canon OTP is matching shoes or w.e, i just dont think its that big a deal. The comic would have drawn attention to it somehow if we were meant to read into it, because Homestuck is actually pretty good about cluing the reader into how it wants to be read imo