Heyyyyy mate, are you familiar with the concept of inverted classpect?

yeah, I came into Homestuck analysis as a fan of BKEW and dahnithewitchoflight primarily, so I’m well-acquainted with the idea.

I don’t currently think of Class inversion as a thing (I view the system as both more complicated and more reliant on the individual player than their class via Roleplay). While I view Aspect changes as more flexible than inversion/overembracing as well, I do actually suspect Aspect inversion might be something of a default in the absence of other stressors/influences.

hey, ive read your theory on boldir and you didnt mention whats the most intriguing line to me – “God, why are you such a fucking waste of space? You could have been gaining some life skills […]”. not only was hussies presumed classpect mentioned, but also the aspect of life. what does this mean? does it tell us anything about the reader? im super interested in your thoughts about it. (-elsterbae from HSA)

i think its a tongue in cheek joke reference but i dont yet have reason to suspect that a “waste of space” is something to take too seriously in a plot impact sense. If I have a guess for the mspa readers classpect its probably thief of blood but i am in nooo way convinced about that yet

1. You have ruined my life. I could’ve gone on with everything so easily, but now… Now I have to deal with 20+ more episodes of Utena because I have to see the relationship between Utena and Anthy develop! QwQ There are only so many hours in a day man! I’ve been binge watching it now and still have plenty to see! I’ve had to deal with all the emotions. All of them. Thanks OD. 2. Now I’m curious; what got you into Revolutionary Girl Utena? I would ask why you like it, but that’d be a silly ask.

im sorry 4 everything but also ur welcome

uhhh i LITERALLY dont remember how i first came across utena. I remember reading its whole tv tropes page, gathering that it was p gay, and deciding to watch it. then it took over my life during the homestuck gigapauses and now im here.

i like it for basically the exact same reasons i like homestuck and view them as different versions of the same core story p much: stories about escaping from the cruelty and misery imposed by an inherently flawed systemic structure, designed by a demiurgic patriarch. queer coming of age stories included included in the combo meal. v good

Hi there! I just finished watching your HSE: The Waking World video (great job btw!), and I was wondering if you had any thoughts on the identities of the other Denizens? We don’t know anything about those that are usually assigned to heroes of Blood, Doom, Mind, and Rage — also, Hope and Heart, since I don’t think Yaldabaoth and Abraxas are the standard denizens for those aspects.

Given how the denizens usually factor into the characters’ arcs in various ways, I’ve come to believe its possible to sorta reverse engineer at least some of the denizens of the characters we don’t know.

The ur-example here is Gamzee, who is so heavily linked to Dionysus I can’t really see another option for him.

Unless he has Yaldabaoth, which is possible since

A) Part of Dionysus’ mythology that links to Gamzee involves becoming one with Zeus, just as Gamzee becomes part of LE, and Homestuck’s mythology generally seems to treat Yaldabaoth as a symbol Zeus, Ra, and YHWH at once depending on the roles Caliborn/Dirk (rly Bro and AR here)/LE are playing at the time.

B) It seems at least possible that Yaldabaoth “replaces” the standard Denizen a player might have, yeah. (To be honest though, I’m not sure that Denizens are precisely aspect specific–my views on Denizens generally borrow a lot from @dahniwitchoflight, her conjecture on that particular system makes the most sense to me right now.)

C) Gamzee obviously qualifies for the “natural born warrior” thing. So does Equius, but due to Gamzee’s dominance I tend to assume he’s likelier to have Yaldabaoth.
Incidentally, if Equius doesn’t have Yaldabaoth, I’ve speculated he might have Orpheus, since Orpheus is at least in some places understood as a version of Dionysus, and Equius’ story seems to have some parallels to his.

Looking at canon this way it also becomes a solid guess that Terezi’s denizen was Themis, since again she’s blatantly enmeshed in her mythology.

That gives us at least one reasonably fitting denizen for Rage and Mind–Dionysus and Themis, respectively. As for Doom, I haven’t identified a particular mythological figure Sollux or Mituna seem based off other than the obvious–the Gemini twins, Castor and Pollux. But since there’s two there, I’m not sure how that’d translate to a Denizen–a dual denizen with two names would be fitting enough, I suppose. It’s also possible I’m missing some other mythological references built into the Captors, so who knows.

Don’t have anything to go off for Blood, though. Both Kankri and Karkat are fully enmeshed in Jesus imagery, all of which ties directly into Abraxas, so they don’t have any outside mythological ties to let us speculate into their Aspect’s “corresponding Denizen” specifically, if indeed such a thing exists. I’ve thought for a long time that YHWH would be a fitting match for Blood, as a “God of the covenant”. But that’s just my long-held fan preference, not any kind of serious speculation based on canon.

hey uh real quick but polyamourous relationships arent really usually called threesomes? that tends to refer to a purely sexual act between three people, often fetishized by monogamous couples. a three person relationship tends to be called a throuple or a triad or something similar. (or ot3, since we’re talking fictional ships :P )

also a really good point, thank you. I’m actually not sure what I would call the way I ship John in this context? I tend to see him as kinda greyace and only occasionally getting involved in Roxycallie and Vrisrezi, which I view as standalone ships most of the time. So I think he could be romantically involved in a polyamorous way, but not necessarily constantly. I’m not sure thats something that even has a term in real world relationships, now that I think about it, but lemme know if it does.

“Boldir’s the only troll we’ve ever seen wear white” Cronus? Daraya? Tyzias? Probably others? I don’t mean to sound rude, this just doesn’t make sense to me.

Sorry, to clarify, I was talking about the pure white shapeless dress she wears. Lots of trolls wear some white in their designs, but that absence of any visual markers feels somewhat new and notable to me. That’s not “white shirt with your sign on it”, it’s totally foregoing the troll call symbol entirely. Something about it struck me, is all. I edited that paragraph to clarify my language a little, so thanks!