Hey, guys! In this video, we dive into Classpects in a little more depth, focusing on the recurring symbol of the Witch’s Familiar. We also take a look at every case of Witch roleplay we’re currently aware of, and note how characters who roleplay as Witches always seem to end up with Familiars themselves.

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also re: xefros being a page of time & rapping – dave is very much into the music too? (i know others are, and dirk’s sylladex revolves around rhyming, but dave’s the only one to constantly get paired with music)

yep! all the time travel devices we’ve seen are musically themed. Dave had his Time Tables, whereas Aradia had a Music Box Time Machine.

And of course, Aradia’s land is The Land of Quartz and Melody. Time and music are pretty strongly linked in Homestuck, which makes sense! :B

What’s your ideas on Joey’s possible class? I think she’s a likely Maid of Light. I don’t have any screenshots, but I remember her saying she’s “not [dammek’s] maid” a few times, and also her saying that she’s not “made of time”. Also, her turning on the lights in her house and turning on the power in Dammek’s hive i think can be interpreted as her “creating Light”.

I agree. I have a few reasons to add “creating Light” as a reason for Joey, and I remember the Maid reference you’re talking about. It’s still SOMEWHAT possible she’s another class–I saw one reference to destruction, but she doesn’t feel like a Prince so I’m still leaning on Maid. But she’s definitely a Light player imo.

I need to get screenshots to make a whole post about it, but my classpect thoughts on the others are:

Xefros is absolutely a Page of Time. There were a fuckload of references to him as a Page already and at least one to Time, which are most of what I’ve got to compile.

Jude is PROBABLY a Seer of Doom. All of his knowledge ends up benefiting or acting through Joey, and she makes explicit reference to being impressed he actually *Knows* his stuff, with respect to all these threats and rogue conspirators he’s predicting. Of course, its still pretty early and there wasnt anything explicit there, so it’s still somewhat up in the air.

Dammek strikes me as a Thief of Breath. Not completely sure on the Thief part–all I have to go on is the fact that he’s so driven and the occasional references to him taking Xefros’ stuff. His passion for communism/non-ownership certainly sounds like “stealing” through “freedom/disattachment” to me for his own benefit, after all. So that’s my rationale there.

But SPECIFICALLY Dammek definitely seems like a Breath player, because he’s strongly referenced as having a talent for leadership and motivating/driving people–providing direction. The fact that Xefros’ classpect matches Aradia’s–Time doesn’t hurt, as Dammek’s analogue would Tavros, the Breath player.

On top of that, it sets up a somewhat interesting inverse dynamic to the relationship we saw between Vriska/Aradia/Tavros.
Where Homestuck’s cycle of revenge began with a Maid of Time getting revenge on a Thief of Light for the abuse of a Page of Breath, Hiveswap’s plot seems to begin with a Maid of Light beginning to heal the withered sense of importance of a Page of Time at the hands of a Thief of Breath.

Not entirely sure if this reading will hold up, of course. But The Dancestors demonstrated an affinity for this kind of karmic role switching, and Scratch seems to be managing the events of this story, to an extent–just as he managed the cycle of revenge. So it wouldn’t surprise me if it pans out. 

Obvi this bears further analysis but I’d suggest Grow/Repair -> Heal as a verb combo for those two classes and I think you already have this but Sylph seems to be active/selfish while Maid is passive/selfless, e.g. Kanaya healing herself versus Aradia repairing the timeline. 3/3

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I’ve used Create for the longest time, but am finding myself leaning towards Make lately simply because it’s referenced much more in the comic and I think has some interesting wordplay with Maids specifically.

My tldr response is I don’t think Heal/repair accurately describes enough of what fairies do. I think both are ways their abilities might be described, but using make or create accounts for much more of all of the fairies’ behavior.

My immediate counterpoint is Aranea, who doesn’t really heal Jake at all. That seems very much like her flattering herself. She just makes him more important and relevant, and doing so enables Jake’s will more than her own in ways she didn’t expect.

I also don’t agree Sylphs are selfish and Maids are selfless. I laid out my argument for most of this with my Destroy/Create essay, so I’d be curious to how you’d respond to my points there.

Force and Flow — Destroy and Create – optimisticDuelist – Medium

revolutionaryduelist:

Here’s the first of the Class essays, where we go over the most intense Active/Passive dichotomy, putting these Classes on the furthest ends of the spectrum. 

The Key Verbs for these classes are Destroy and Create, covering
Princes and Bards & Maids and Sylphs, respectively. 

Quick disclaimer so I don’t get anyone’s hope’s up: This essay doesn’t include much discussion of Jane Crocker! Not because she isn’t relevant, but because I actually ended up writing this entire series because I needed to lay out my thoughts on Maids so I could get around to writing my essay about her. 

I’ll be linking to my Jane post at the end of this essay once it’s up, and this essay is pretty much required reading for it! So I think it’s worth checking out if you’re interested in her anyway. 

As for the rest, I just hope you enjoy.  The other two essays are already written, and I’ll be posting them over the next two weeks! 

They are available in their entireties for my Patrons, so if you can spare me a buck a month you can get these early if you decide you like them enough. Higher reward tiers will let you invite friends to the Discord so they can read them too!

Feel free to @ me, reblog or send me an ask with your thoughts on these first two essays. There may be some things I can’t answer as they will be answered in later posts, but I might use those as inspiration for what teasers to release from sections of the next two essays over the course of the week.

You can also feel free to talk to me in the Hiveswap Discord where I moderate and cry about Homestuck. I’m very interested in seeing how my thoughts stand up to scrutiny, so don’t be shy!

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[Active/Passive Masterpost] [Steal and Serve] [Know and Change]

Keep Rising.

Just wanted to reblog this to mention that I made some heavy revisions and added a bunch more stuff, particularly making the Unifying Myth of Fairies far more compelling! 

There’s also some talk about Vriska, and I made some edits and added some graphics that should make it much easier to understand how I think the Class Active/Passive spectrum works as a whole. Finally, I also included Jane’s one reference to being a Fairy (that I’ve found so far). 

Special thanks to @ymawgat for sending me the questions that made me reevaluate a couple things in the canon and dig all this extra stuff up! This argument is both way more compelling and far easier to read now, I think, and I appreciate it. 

I also wanted to note that thanks to my financial situation improving, I’ve been able to lower my Patreon goals substantially! At this point, I’ve got something like 630 followers, so if less than half of them considered sending me three bucks a month, I’d be able to bring out new insights about Homestuck as a full-time job. 

You’d also join a Homestuck analysis community that has already proven exceptionally awesome 😉

Of course, I appreciate anyone’s attention and thoughts in response to my writing most of all! I just wanted to keep everyone updated on what the state of this project is. 

Force and Flow — Destroy and Create – optimisticDuelist – Medium

doesn’t aradia actually have a line implying knights are passive?

She has a line implying both she and Dave–as Time players–serve a Master they must be prepared to die a thousand deaths for. I THINK That’s a reference to Lord English, though–so I’m not entirely sure I’d count it for classpect purposes.

If you mean something else, then I’m unsure. 

Force and Flow — Destroy and Create – optimisticDuelist – Medium

Here’s the first of the Class essays, where we go over the most intense Active/Passive dichotomy, putting these Classes on the furthest ends of the spectrum. 

The Key Verbs for these classes are Destroy and Create, covering
Princes and Bards & Maids and Sylphs, respectively. 

Quick disclaimer so I don’t get anyone’s hope’s up: This essay doesn’t include much discussion of Jane Crocker! Not because she isn’t relevant, but because I actually ended up writing this entire series because I needed to lay out my thoughts on Maids so I could get around to writing my essay about her. 

I’ll be linking to my Jane post at the end of this essay once it’s up, and this essay is pretty much required reading for it! So I think it’s worth checking out if you’re interested in her anyway. 

As for the rest, I just hope you enjoy.  The other two essays are already written, and I’ll be posting them over the next two weeks! 

They are available in their entireties for my Patrons, so if you can spare me a buck a month you can get these early if you decide you like them enough. Higher reward tiers will let you invite friends to the Discord so they can read them too!

Feel free to @ me, reblog or send me an ask with your thoughts on these first two essays. There may be some things I can’t answer as they will be answered in later posts, but I might use those as inspiration for what teasers to release from sections of the next two essays over the course of the week.

You can also feel free to talk to me in the Hiveswap Discord where I moderate and cry about Homestuck. I’m very interested in seeing how my thoughts stand up to scrutiny, so don’t be shy!

[Youtube] [Patreon] [Hiveswap Discord

[Active/Passive Masterpost] [Steal and Serve] [Know and Change]

Keep Rising.

Force and Flow — Destroy and Create – optimisticDuelist – Medium