These adjusted Aspect cards will be included in the upcoming reupload of my Classpect video, btw. The Aspect section itself didn’t change much other than these new cards, but I decided to take the opportunity to provide a more fully developed view of the Classes, and make the video easier to engage with by cutting it into halves. 

I hope it will now serve as an even more appealing and concise introduction to Classpects to any would-be interested souls, so stay tuned on my channel for that update, if you’re interested. 

Feel free to use these you like them! All I ask is that you point people back to me if asked where you got them 🙂 

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Just curious, are your views on the aspects somewhat different now or are they relatively the same?

Mostly the same, but I’d say I have a cleaner language in my mind when thinking about Rage, Hope and Light in particular. There’s always been a bizzare sort of conceptual overlap in my head surrounding those three, and the descriptions really helped clear it up for me. I’d also say I have a somewhat more nuanced view, since interestingly, the descriptions suggest the Aspects themselves have Active/Passive tendencies! I’d previously thought Active and Passive applied only to Classes and dreaming moons, but apparently not.

Oh also I’m feeling smug as fuck that after getting so much blowback from self-professed Homestuck “experts” that Jake English isn’t selfish vis a vis his Page status (I’m not talking about Vikomprenas, he’s cool and a fun guy to talk to about this stuff) the descriptions went and implied HOPE could well be inherently selfish, making Jake be coded as selfish no matter what you believe about Class designation :). Maybe now the fandom can access him as something other than a selfless, put-upon, pitiful woobie?? Hahahahahaha

I know I sound kinda biting there but honestly it’s all in fun for me, I’m just glad the information we’ve gotten is so compelling and interesting. Seriously though @ fandom at large? Dirkjake is canon and it’s probably time to reassess our views on the Alphas as a group. Secret tip: They all love each other and fuck up and they fucking rock and are the best part of Homestuck. 

This wasn’t about the Alphas so sorry anon but with me every road leads to the alphas. 

Holy shit thanks for that link to wakraya’s true sign theory, I’m looking at the titles and noticed they make sense both directions. Time across multiple star signs gives titles like excavator, advancer, rebel, dissenter; and then rust class across aspects gives wanderer, lost, trailblazer, wayward, runaway. Similar across all the others. There definitely looks like a relationship! I just posted a link on my blog if you want to look for yourself.

Interesting as hell, nice 😀 I will definitely take a look though I’m pretty busy rn, but I’m really excited to hear this! Feel free to update me if you come across anything particularly interesting, too. 

do you think the canon test ignores the nuances of the aspects?

Not particularly? The descriptions there just seem to describe the personalities of players bound to particular Aspects, rather than describing the Aspect itself. It’s a different focus, which means this is all new information for the most part–we can add it to the holistic view of Aspects that has been developing over time.

Like, the Light description doesn’t even mention luck. This is clearly not meant to be the definitive, final, COMPLETE GUIDE to Aspects and what they represent. It’s a brief overview meant to inform and entice newbies as to the workings of the system, and I think it does a pretty good job at that!

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whaaaaaaaat the FUCK this is fascinating and so weird, I have so much to reconsider and double check 

Commanding Aspects

arrghus:

So the Time Aspect connects a lot to death. That’s a fairly widespread notion. Specifically, Time connects to death to a large extent because the Alpha timeline is an incredibly brutal construct, hurting both those who follow it and those who choose to deviate from it. But the Alpha timeline is a construct of Lord English.

https://medium.com/@RoseOfNobility/apotheosis-and-creation-myth-2257d7bf5854 (scroll down a fair bit)

So Lord English, the Lord of Time, has redefined the Aspect of Time to suit his needs. Huh. Has Calliope, his equal and opposite, perhaps done something similar?

Now, I don’t have much evidence of my theory, I’m not even sure evidence is all that possible to accrue for such a thing, but, well, in the Gnostic origins that Homestuck draws upon, the physical matter of the world is often disparaged, seen as the flawed design of Yaldabaoth, devoid of meaning. We see this reflected in the Aspects, Void, the Aspect of irrelevance, confers great physical ability on its heroes, as does Rage, the Aspect of misery and meaninglessness.

Yet Space, the most physical Aspect of them all, is heavily associated with art and beauty? Beautiful clothes, fascinating sciences, even the Vast Croak, described as the most wondruous thing of all. Clearly, then, the physical world is not entirely lost. It can be filled with meaning, with glory. It has potential, even in a story so heavily centered on the internet and the exploration of ideas.

Certainly, Calliope loves the world. Certainly, she loves to draw its inhabitants, to speculate upon its mechanics. Certainly, she dresses herself in the trappings of its peoples, and speaks endlessly of their glories. Certainly, she acts to inspire the alphas to love the world with her in her communications with them.

Certainly, the last command of her alternate self was to partake of reality, to enjoy the fruits of hers and everyone’s labor. To “have fun”.

Certainly, Calliope in her symbolic sense embodies the audience, with their arts and their theories and their cosplays. Certainly, the story of Homestuck, without its audience, would be a lesser, stranger thing, not to mention mostly unwritten, given how much Hussie inspiration Hussie has at times implied he takes from his audience.

There is an outline here, in the certainties. An outline of a theory. A suggestion of Calliope’s grand influence on the story, of the way she shapes reality every bit as fundamentally as Lord English, and not merely by shaping him through his hatred of her.

But that theory is not yet certain, and I do not know precisely what form it would take, were it to become such.

Some old classpect thoughts

arrghus:

Presented with perhaps lacking context.

So I’ve been thinking about Hope as the strongest Aspect and how some people insist that surely it can’t bear that title alone because it and its counterpart Rage must be equal, among other things.

And I think I’ve hit on something interesting there. Because while Gamzee’s application of Rage is incredibly flexible (he can be almost anywhere at any time, have all the weird little odds and ends he wants, etc) it’s never very powerful. Like, one of his greatest feats in the story is owning a costume.

And yes, there’s the fight with the black king. But the key thing there, the thing I realized just now, is that the revelation that Gamzee was critical to that fight happened long after the fight was concluded. When Aradia talked about the fight, she mentions their weapons, her time-clones, and Vriska’s dice. Gamzee’s not there. This is the meta nature of Rage. Gamzee inserts himself into the fight only after it’s done, and tears up the narrative coherence of it in the process by kinda sorta contradicting Aradia’s account of it. Then he upsets his impending beatdown at Equius’ hands by playing to his weaknesses and kills Nepeta offscreen, before being unceremoniously papped down without actually changing his ways at all. This is the Rage of which Tex spoke, the ability to make stories “go wrong”, the power of “bullshit”.

In contrast, almost everything Jake does is heavily foreshadowed and shrouded in layer upon layer of myth and reference. His biggest actions are momentuous fullfilments of seeming hundreds of little seeds sown thousands of pages in advance. Here is where I contradict taz a little, because when Jake is powered up by Aranea? I don’t think he could have done anything in that position. I don’t think that at all. Hope is among other things the power of creativity, of “good storytelling”, and in accordance with the rules of “good storytelling” at such a momentuous occasion it can accomplish only what has been built up in advance. Jake is strong here because his strength has been built up, and he can make Brain Ghost Dirk (and only Brain Ghost Dirk) real specifically on account of Brain Ghost Dirk having been established in advance as a facet of Jake’s own nature and ability. And he can do so in part because, yes, that’s a Princess Bride reference, and mythological parallels are again “good storytelling”.

This is why, on a meta level, Hope is strong but somewhat inflexible, while Rage is weak but versatile.

This is how Eridan operates as well. His genocide complex, his fascination with magic, all of these things are set up well in advance. His emotional theatrics and dumb antics with the angels undercut this, “destroying” the foreshadowing as it were, but everything he does is set up in advance and returned to repeatedly before it happens. By contrast, Gamzee’s foreshadowing consists of what, stating that typing in all lowercase feels unnatural and mentioning that he wants to make Equius happy?

jollysunflora replied to your post “I knew Inversion Theory was just a fan-theory and wasn’t canonically…”

Tbh that doesnt seem like enough evidence to debunk it

I’m not really sure what to tell you if WP staff saying “I’ve spoken to Hussie about this and am speaking from a position of privilege; it isn’t canon.” isn’t enough for you. I kind of take it as tacit confirmation of something I already knew, personally. 

There’s nothing about inversion theory that I don’t feel is more accurately explained by the basic dynamic Calliope proposes with Aspects, and Roleplay set up by FLARP and the focus on Ancestral/Historical influence for Class stuff. Simply put, there are better explanations that render Homestuck a more cohesive and complete narrative, in my opinion. 

revolutionaryduelist:

[4. Gnostic Myth –
Literally fucking everything. A Non-Exhaustive review.]

It’s honestly kind of weird to me how skeptical people are on this point, so before we dive deeper, let’s recap the sheer breadth of references to Gnosticism in Homestuck. 

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Here’s our last essay in this series, covering quite a bit more of Homestuck’s gnostic influences and taking a look at what they mean for the execution of Act 7. This undercurrent has been pretty fascinating to uncover, particular for contextualizing Lord English, so if nothing else I hope you enjoy reading and letting me know what you think!

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Keep Rising.

I really like the your interpretation of classpects and what they mean on a character to character basis. All of your fanfiction is also really excellent with the most consistent characterization that I’ve seen in many a year. You are like the wise elder of the Homestuck fandom in my eyes. Btw will there be an essay on the aspects themselves after you are done with the classes? Or will it be all the characters instead?

Thanks a ton, I’m happy to hear you’ve enjoyed my writing so much 🙂

I mostly think fandom has the Aspects figured out, so I’m pretty sure my writing is going to remain focused on other subjects for the moment. Tex Talks does a better job of breaking new ground than me there anyway, his videos are great pls check them out.

All I really have to add to the Aspect discussion is that they should really be understood as the obvious counterparts to the Gnostic Aeons–like the Aeons, the Aspects are Ideas. They come in bonded pairs, and are meant to create reality together. There’s definitely other analogs to Aeons in Homestuck: Rose, Dirk and Calliope all act out or relate to Sophia pretty strongly.

But Sophia herself is pretty much synonymous with the aspect of Light. And understanding the Aspects that way gives them a sense of divinity that adds weight to them, I think. It also makes it clear the Gnostic stuff suffuses every inch of Homestuck, as if that wasn’t already obvious enough.