No. Well, probably not. But I think I have a pretty decent guess?
My Jude post is going to take a little while longer, and once I put these pieces together it didn’t take much to make things fall into place, and turned out to be pretty quick to put together.
I don’t usually do outright speculation, I tend to dislike doing so. But this feels solid enough that I’m willing to at least mention it, and more than that its simply interesting to think about, so while we wait for Hiveswap: Act 2, I figure we may as well mull over this possibility.
So, humor me.
A. Claire is a pretty mysterious figure. She seems to come out of nowhere to shake up Homestuck’s core cast, and she seems to know more about the game than we ever confirmed for any other Guardian, barring Pa himself. Why does she seem so connected to the Cherub Key? How on earth did she paint a mural of the green sun??? What’s her deal!
There’s no precedent for a character quite like the mysterious actress, and seemingly no background profile that would explain how she knows what she knows. Except, of course, for the obvious one. The one we’ve overlooked.
Oh, absolutely. I speculated shortly, that she looks a biiit like a Roxy-Jane lovechild. But of course theres no pretense for that, and this makes a lot more sense!
Hm. I thought it was just me, so I didn’t feel inclined to say. But if you thought A.Claire looked a bit Lalondeian too, I think it’s worth mentioning. I think this jives with the fact that in a lot of ways, Roxy stole a bit of Jane’s role of Heiress–she was definitely under the Heiress’ tutelage to some extent.
So maybe it’s worth considering that, as the Baroness’ true heiress, A.Claire’s mutations are specifically in the mold of Mom Lalonde? Or lightly incorporate Roxy’s genetics in some way? This is downright WILD spec and I am not married to it at all, I’m just mentioning it because A.Claire does kinda strike me as both of them.
i beg of you. learn to accept that a good character doesn’t have to be a good person. lots of lovable characters are completely terrible. Dammek being a big piece of shit is what makes him interesting.
if him being terrible is too much for you, you also don’t have to like him though. I never understand how people get so wrapped up into characters that liking or disliking one will like… destroy friendships and stuff. Sorry I got kinda into this cause I get like a thousand asks that are literally like pleading with me to reveal some weird overlooked subtext about Dammeks shitty personality that suddenly makes it OK that he is completely awful to everyone around him.
Not every character is going to be perfect, or even like… acceptable. Maybe I’m just like extremely old here but.. isn’t that more interesting?
she was probably just raised in like an ectolab or w.e by the Condesce directly. Raised apart from Nanna and Grandpa, I mean. I don’t think that makes her a sister since she wasn’t raised as a sister and there is no genetic relation.
there is someone like that, in my opinion. it’s caliborn.
I was going to get mad but then I remembered that no – there was an alt-Caliborn. We never met him, but he was dominated and defeated by alt-Calliope.
The end result, though, is that unlike anyone else in all of reality, there’s only ever really One Caliborn. Caliborn doesn’t exist conceptually, in many different iterations, like the rest of the characters do. He exists only and exclusively in the single physical form that goes on the single physical journey he ever chooses to take.
The Alt-Caliborn only existed through forced John scratch, and his only fate was to be consumed and become part of Calliope. He doesn’t truly exist except as part of her. So Caliborn remains a true individual–an oddity in Homestuck’s cast. Everyone else is multiple people.
FedoraFreak.
That’s a fairly good point, except that we don’t really see the full context of fedorafreaks’ existence. He would well have alternate timeline selves and w.e and we’d have no way to know, because he’s a person from Earth, and Homestuck is only concerned with them insofar as they’re subjugated by LE and killed by the game.
Once he dies (or God tiers) and finishes his conversation with Nanna, he’s simply not relevant to us.
2) since she doesnt eventually become Jane, she’s probably a mutant rather than a perfect paradox clone anyway. The Condesce does genetic manipulation already, anyway
If this were true, then it would be Homestuck’s most ambitious and intense exploration of the questions of Nature vs. Nurture it’s explored continually so far, maybe even moreso than the difference between Bro and Dirk.
That’s another reason I like the idea, given that the Alpha session is, in its broad strokes, heavily crafted by the extreme impact of either Dirk or Jane, who trade off absolute control of the session back and forth, but through proxies. AR (NOT Dirk) is in complete control of the narrative Pre-Entry, and Post-Entry Jane ends up dominating the whole session first through Trickster Mode and then through Crockertier–both times without her full agency. I only point this out to note that Dirk and Jane have always existed as extreme parallels of one another.
So just as Bro seems to be influenced by Lil Cal to a great degree, I’d be interested in seeing a version of Jane who is fully subject to the Heiress role the Empress has always wanted to impose onto Jane, and which proved incredibly toxic to her in her Alpha timeline. Let me be clear: I think A.Claire is an absolutely heroic figure. I also think that about Grandpa, though–I just regard him as a hero with a tragic flaw, in the greek sense.
I wouldn’t be shocked if A.Claire had a similar issue she never overcame, since that’s kind of the Thing with the Alphas, and though Jake and Jane undoubtedly love each other I don’t think they worked out their issues. If they had, I don’t think Roxy would have been so lacking for support, and if Jake had solved his problems through his relationship with A.Claire, I kind of doubt he’d have run away from the kids.
But I digress. I don’t think Pa would find it incestuous because, for one thing, there’s no indication he would know. Pa was apparently a big fan of A.Claire’s. That’s unsurprising, given his at least subconcious affinity for his old friends. But he’d have no way to know about that or ask her about it before they actually became close. So basically I don’t think it’s something that would occur to him?
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