I’m liking this style. Harley family reunion! (also dirk)
Tag: hiveswap
There’s something I’ve been thinking: We once debated whether or not Grandpa Harley was living an awesome life or not – I said yes, you said no because you felt he was trying to fill the void of a reality without Dirk in it, his (in some sense literal) soul mate. But I feel like this throws A. Claire under the bus. Rather than being a guy whose a shitty person because Dirk isn’t in his life – maybe he’s just shitty because his wife died and he never got over it. He wouldn’t be the first. 1/2
2/3 I mean A. Claire affects the narrative indirectly, being The Dead Mom trope, but it really stands out to me the way we let our knowledge of the alpha universe affect our understanding of the Beta. A. Claire is one of the few human ‘things’ in Homestuck to have no counterpart in the Alpha timeline that we are aware Jake is aware of. Joey and Jude never drew breath on Alpha Earth. A. Claire and J&J fundamentally separate Jake English and Jake Harley into two utterly different individuals 2/3
¾ Which is why I still have to disagree that the Beta Guardians are de-facto the ‘incomplete’ versions of the Alpha kids, unable to ever reach their true potential – because where does that leave the life that Jake built with A. Claire? Even now Grandpa remains the outlier among the Guardians – from my standpoint I can’t but see him as a man who couldn’t handle the loss of his wife, for who his children were the most painful reminder. So he runs – again and again and again and again 3/4
4/4 (Sorry this is all splintered like this, Asks suck). None of this condones him being a shitty parent, but it does change the context in which we can view JE and JH as mirrors. I’d love to know what JH was like as a husband to A – kind, carrying, attentive, devoted? Maybe he wasn’t, and your original argument stands – the absence of his alpha friends ultimately stunts him as a person. But maybe when A was still around this ceased to be true – but once she was gone, he fell apart again.
I mean, my main post was never that Jake was shitty because of a lack of Dirk specifically. Jake Harley struggles with the exact same issues that detonate all of Jake English’s relationships with his friends growing up. Toxic masculinity, heteronormative ideology, and most clearly, escapism and neglect of those he cares about because of fear of confrontation.
It is through his relationship with all his friends–Dirk, Jane, Roxy, and others–that Jake manages to learn to get over those issues.
All we can say for sure about Jake Harley, then, is that he most definitely does not overcome his neglect and escapism habits by the end of his life the way English does.
MAYBE he made progress with A. Claire on that front? It’s definitely not impossible. But we just don’t know, and in the meantime he continues hoarding behavior that suggests his alternate friends are very much still a part of his psyche. It’s also possible A. Claire was his partner in uncovering the secrets of Lord English and Sburb, given that she apparently painted Joey’s mural of a Green Star–in other words, the Green Sun–and was the original owner of the Cherub Key.
I certainly agree that Jude and Joey are unique, though, and A. Claire won me over hard enough that I would be happy to know she was at least a genuine comfort to Jake if he was struggling. I honestly don’t know what their relationship was like either–but I’m very curious.
I meant: anything to say about the origins or purpose of the portal? Any ideas on why Pa Harley has supposedely been using it to visit Alternia/Beforus or how he came to posess it in the first place? Any speculation about cherub/Lord English/Calliope’s possible role in the story?
Oh! Hm. Well I definitely think Lord English is involved by proxy–Hiveswap seems to be largely centered around Doc Scratch as an antagonistic influence, while Hauntswitch seems focused on the cult of the Mirthful Messiahs. Jude seems like he’s almost definitely a Doom player, probably a Seer, and his corresponding Two-color duality motif is Lord English’s main colors: Red and Green.
As for why Pa has been visiting Alternia or how he came to possess the portal: No idea! All I really have on Pa is a strong suspicion that he’s been setting up the plot of these games at least partly to save Jude and Joey, just as he set up Sburb to save as much of humanity as he could. Pa’s a shitty dad and I hope Joey gets to set him on fire, but I don’t think he’s evil and I do think he cares.
He just sucks really hard at it.
As for the portal, well. I am pretty certain it’s not JUST a portal, and it’s not just a doomsday device, either. But you’ll be able to see my thoughts on it towards the end of Joey’s Classpect post (which I just finished!), so I’ll keep my thoughts there to myself for right now, if you don’t mind 🙂
BORN TO BE A STAR — JOEY CLAIRE, ……THE MAID OF LIGHT

MAID:
One who makes Light, or makes through Light — for themselves.
LIGHT:
Power, Fortune, Enlightenment, Knowledge, Ideas, Importance…
[This post will not require any Homestuck knowledge,
but will include Homestuck spoilers!]
I’m an old hat Homestuck. I went into Hiveswap expecting lore on old Homestuck characters, and to learn more about the wider universe that I love.
In my excitement for these things, I somehow never considered the possibility that Joey Claire and her new friends would be the things that really caused me to fall in love.
More the fool I am — I should’ve seen it coming. Homestuck has always been at its strongest when it explores the complex and nuanced lives of its cast, creating some of fiction’s richest and most layered characters, and Hiveswap is no different.
Although in some ways, it’s better — snappier, more accessible, certainly easier for a wider market to enjoy. And a lot of that is down to Joey Claire — Hiveswap’s magnificent protagonist. Among an already standout cast, it can’t be denied that for many of us, Joey stole the show. Which is good!
Because she’d like it that way.
In this essay, I’m going to do a Hiveswap-review by way of character analysis by way of classpecting. We’re going to talk about Joey, delve into her nuances as a character and how they tie into Homestuck’s fascinating hyperflexible mythology system: Classpects.

Don’t worry. You won’t need to know much about Classpects to follow along! I’ll define the relevant points as they relate to Joey along the way
So without further ado, let’s gets to know what I dearly hope will become one of gaming — and literature’s — biggest darling stars.

JOEY CLAIRE is a 14 year old girl who lives alone with her little brother
JUDE HARLEY and their often-absent alcoholic babysitter in the town of HAUNTSWITCH. At the beginning of Hiveswap, Joey and Jude are beset by mysterious monsters that seem linked to the NEIGHBORHOOD CULT Jude has spent years obsessed with.
Even in this life and death situation, as usual, the kids have to fend for themselves. Joey introduces herself as a semi-orphan, as she feels abandoned by her billionaire CEO father, who’s spent less and less time in the household ever since the tragic early death of Joey’s mother, a famous dancer known to us as A.CLAIRE.
Not only is she not over her Mom’s death, she only really has her brother and their pets to spend time with as a result of her dad’s selfishness. Her Babysitter is often drunk or working, and the kids at school are mean. Out of anger and resentment, Joey has forsaken her father’s surname in favor of her beloved mom’s.




Maybe my favorite thing about Hiveswap is how Joey spends the whole thing relentlessly shittalking her shitty awful dad. She’s ruthless. I love it. And at no point does the narrative ever stop her in her tracks or suggest she’s being unreasonable for her slighted, complicated, dramatic feelings — even when they’re vicious. As far as the story’s concerned, Pa earned them.
In fact, Joey’s anger at her neglect is eventually cast in a downright heroic light. Part of how Hiveswap paints the portrait of Joey’s life so effectively is by giving us a very clear picture of who Joey is. Hiveswap tells us — without having to bog it down with raw exposition — that Joey is a kid who deeply desires attention.
So let’s start unpacking Homestuck’s complicated symbol language with the first part of Joey’s Hero Title:
Maid.

HERO OF ________ ==>What will you do?
Homestuck’s Classpects are a hyperflexible mythology system that borrows it’s structure from the iconic “Hero of Time” structure used to describe Link in Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.
Consisting of 12 Standard Classes and 2 Master Classes that interlock with a seperate system comprised of 12 Aspects more, a player’s Hero Title provides a hyper-interpretable context for the character that tells you a lot about their personality traits, innate tendencies, and possible powersets.
It’s important to stress the word hyper-interpretable. Classpects run on a complex dream-logic that can include visual symbolism, wordplay and puns, and individual character traits.
The thrust of the world of Paradox Space — the setting Homestuck and Hiveswap share — is that the characters are, on some level, always creating their own reality and potential. As such, the power of their Classpects comes from within their own personalities and thoughts.
That means that even if two people had the same combination of the 168 classes, the way that each individual character interprets their role — and so, imagines the powers it gives them — would differ between the two.
Meaning two different Thieves of Heart would likely execute their roles in completely different ways.

The first half of Joey’s title is MAID — but she’s not the cleaning kind. Homestuck’s 14 classes are divided into two sets ACTIVE and PASSIVE players, each of the 7 pairs connected by a primary verb.
Maids are paired with Sylphs, under the roughly defined verbs
‘Create’ or ‘Make’. And though both Maid and Sylph
are ‘Creation’ classes, they will ‘Create’ in different ways.
A Sylph will tend to take the more PASSIVE approach:
They will invite the creation of ‘X’, or invite creation through ‘X’ —
where X is the Aspect.
And a Maid will be at their strongest behaving ACTIVELY most of the time:
They will simply create ‘X’, or create through ‘X’.
On top of that, a Passive Sylph will feel most as home using their powers for the benefit of others. An Active Maid may choose to do the same — and vice versa — , but in the long run will find themselves healthier by predominantly using their powers for themselves.
So when Joey says she’s not Dammek’s Maid, the emphasis is on the idea that she’d be acting to serve someone else. We’re still being clued into her place in the system through the wordplay!
Neither of these are hard and fast rules, mind you. The class system is informed strongly by Taoist Yin-Yang philosophy, and ultimately suggests true inner peace and self-actualization can only be achieved by bringing these two extremes of behavior to an individualized balance.
But they are descriptive of tendencies. Which means that as a Maid of Light, we can understand Joey as “One who makes Light, or makes through Light, for herself.”
But what does Light mean in Hiveswap?


The Aspects define the second half of a Hero’s Title. We can understand them as the elements that a Hero will work with to accomplish their goals — like fire, water, wind and earthbenders in Avatar, each Aspect represents a different source of influence and power. Though their reach is considerably more wide-reaching than Bending.
The Aspects are regarded as the primordial particles of Paradox Space, and all twelve can be combined and recombined to create every object and event in existence. This is the source of any one Player character’s power.
In Hiveswap, the player’s thoughts literally manipulate the fundamental Aspects of reality.

This means that any concept that can be linguistically, symbolically, or historically linked to Light falls under the domain of Light’s influence — many of which I’ll describe as we continue. In Joey’s case, that means our clearest signs for her kinship with Light include lots of Light-based puns and wordplay.

Joey’s Lite-Brite gives us the first example that we can apply her Classpect’s verbiage to. Light is linked to the idea of Enlightenment, and so to the concepts of True Knowledge, Reason, and the World of Ideas in the Gnostic myths that Homestuck draws heavily from.
In Hiveswap, those concepts are condensed into Joey’s powerful IMAGINATION — her capacity to come up with unique Ideas.
So we can understand Joey as creating Light in the world by coming up with ideas and then expressing them physically, through her art!
The Lite-Brite also happens to run off electricity that provides POWER to Joey’s house — the very energy she uses to make her artworks in the first place. This can be parsed as Joey creating through Light. In both cases, however, the end result is her own amusement and enjoyment! So she is creating for her own benefit.



Some nuances of a Classpect are built up by association through consistent traits among different players with the same Class verb. Maids and Sylphs, for example, are sometimes described as being MADE OF their Aspect — as in this bit of wordplay. They also have an association to Fairies, who are said to be “Made of Magic”.
As a Class who’s thought processes tend to be more connected to their Aspects than to their societies’ influences, and who can Make More of their Aspect out of seemingly nothing, it wouldn’t be out of line to regard Maids as sort of Aspect Elementals, literally made of the stuff their magic draws on.

Joey has no Fairy associations (that I’ve picked up on yet), but she does liken herself to a source of Light — comparing herself to the mysterious, shining green energy cube that lets her hack into Dammek’s hive.
It’s worth mentioning much of Joey’s inventory concerns symbols of Light magic, too — two sets of batteries and the power cube (energy), the great book of beasts and map (information), her flashlight (obviously literal), the Magic Spice. Nothing to say about the pogs. The pogs just suck. Worthless pogs.
Let’s move on.

Not only that, but the star on Joey’s shirt was partly created by Joey herself! Her passion for the Star her mother painted was so intense she got the shirt made for her. Another instance of Joey’s imagination leading to creation to benefit herself.
This passion for Stars coincides with Joey’s keen interest in attention, importance, and FAME. Joey wants above all else to follow in her mother’s footsteps to be a famous celebrity — in other words, a STAR.
The last name ‘Claire’ even happens to mean ‘famous’.


Other associations are built into the Aspect. Every Light player in Homestuck is a girl who displays a girl-loving inclination, and Joey is no exception. It’s no mistake that a number of Joey’s references to attraction to girls are coded with words like “bright”!





And then there’s times we get lucky and get to compare two players with very similar classes and the same Aspect — like so. As a Sylph of Light, Aranea describes herself as both a powerful healer and someone naturally endowed with an abundance of luck. Light also describes fortune, both in the sense of luck and the accumulation of wealth. Aranea tends to be at her best using these faculties for the benefit of others, however.
For Joey, being the Active counterpart to a Sylph means she also has a deep interest in healing and restoration, as a subset of her ability to create.
Joey’s investment to healing also pays off in a Lucky break, as her healing of the Deercat triggers a rare process where it chooses to adopt her!
So while Joey heals and creates, much like Aranea, those actions are much more likely to directly benefit Joey herself. So even here in Joey’s humble beginnings, we can see that her title provides a powerful toolset for understanding her skills and assets!
But no path in life is easy, and Classpects are designed to reflect this as well. After all, anyone reading this far knows there’s many ways in which Joey isn’t a lucky girl at all.


Also among Light’s associations in the comic is a focus on IMPORTANCE and the SPOTLIGHT. Vriska, the Thief of Light, becomes upset and furious when she isn’t given attention and responded to by someone she’s wronged.
Aranea employs a dramatic power grab for relevance after feeling ignored for millennia.
To most Light players, the spotlight matters. Being paid attention to matters.
And that’s important to understanding Joey, because she’s every bit the diva of her fellow Light players. And attention is the one thing she’s always denied.

A LONELY STAR
A. Claire’s death is the top on which both Joey and Jude’s lives tailspin downwards, as it prompted her Pa’s increasing abandonment of the family on top of costing the kids their mother.
For Joey, the already tragic loss of both her parents also represents a loss of attention from…basically anybody in her life, given her babysitter’s maladjusted alcoholic lifestyle and her brother’s obsession with the mysterious Cultists.

Joey tries to make friends at school, but finds herself shunned at least partly for her interest in video games. This leaves her utterly without peers to share her variety of interests with — her strong imagination and affinity for Light ironically condemning her to isolation.
This is also something of a running motif for Maid players. Maid might well be the most Active standard class in the game, meaning that Maid characters are extremely self-driven, and are at their best when following their own wills and desires.
But each Maid player we’ve seen so far has also found themselves subjected to circumstances that undermine their capacity for self-expression, making them play the miserable part of servant or slave to their Aspect in a way they must eventually overcome, if they’re to be happy at all.
Aradia, the Maid of Time, spends much of her early narrative having her self-expression subjugated as she serves and maintains the time loops necessary to complete the Alpha Timeline.
Jane Crocker, the Maid of Life, has her free will stolen by a Thief of Life and her considerable willpower, expression, and ability to resurrect the dead turned against her friends and loved ones — on top of suffering many assassination attempts from the same source growing up.

It’s in this same tradition that we can understand Joey: as a deeply self-driven girl with high aspirations of stardom and admiration from many, who has by the cruel circumstances of life been condemned to the shadow of obscurity.
Joey thinks a lot about how she might look from the perspective of others.
She fantasizes about her future memoirs and practices her routines hard, even though she’s got nobody to practice with, or even tell her how well she does.

The moment she’s put in any sort of new social situation — even one as bizzare as trying to survive desperate circumstances with Xefros on Alternia —
Joey habitually turns to communicating in terms of performance.
Watch me! Feast your eyes! Be Dazzled!
She’s partly joking here, of course — but the joke itself is the performance, and the amount of times Joey makes jokes or makes up scenarios where she’s in front of a crowd are too many to count.

Hell, even most of Joey’s STRIFEs center this tension between Joey’s desire for attention and the world’s seeming determination to ignore her.
A good half of Joey’s fights involve her simply trying to get the enemy’s attention in some way — usually by either performing, and so putting herself in the metaphorical spotlight, or simply by using her flashlight.




And Joey’s desperate desire for attention is crucial for contextualizing her intense FURY at Pa’s abandonment and neglect. She’s also angry at him for killing animals, of course — the death of her mother and general affinity for animals seems to have left Joey with a strong interest in the Life Aspect on top of her innate relationship to Light.
But his inattention and disinterest in her and Jude’s lives is repeatedly given as a largely separate and equally powerful reason for her righteous resentment. Most telling of all, though, is how Joey’s desperation for SOMEONE to pay attention to her manifests in her relationship to her dead mother.

Grief is a devastating thing to deal with, especially for a kid. And saving items or experiences left by loved ones is an experience many who have dealt with grief can relate to.
But for Joey specifically, the habit of saving her mother’s dance tapes is framed not just around a desire to remember her, but specifically around Joey’s desire to share with her Mom the moments that she absolutely needs to share with somebody.
For the days that, either glowing with pride or in need of comfort, Joey desperately wants to share with her. This, then, is the closest Joey comes to having real attention from her loved ones in the moments that matter — saving her Mom only for the moments Joey deems most important to her.


But the inspiring thing about Joey, the thing that’s moved me to tears at least once every day since I finished this game, is that despite Joey’s loneliness, her isolation, the abandonment of her father and shunning by her peers, she never loses sight of her own intrinsic worth.

Despite her frustration, despite the pain and sorrow, Joey knows
she’s not at fault. Joey knows she has intrinsic worth, that she’s important and that the blame lies with those around her who can’t see it.



And not only that, but when transported to Alternia, she soundly rejects the reality that makes Xefros feel the same way her own life made her feel.
Joey is a girl who sees life as intrinsically valuable.
It should be noted here that “Nothing” and “Nobody” are concepts closely associated with Light’s complementary Aspect, that of darkness, false information/lies, and physical reality: Void. So when Joey counters Xefros here, she’s not just being a good friend.
When Joey rejects the lie that the physical color of Xefros’ blood means he’s worthless, or that a socially conditioned idea of fated moirailship means he HAS to like whatever Dammek does to him, she does so while being considered inherently righteous not just by common sense, but by the fundamental principles of Paradox Space’s cosmology.

And she ends off by promising to raise Xefros’ standards of friendship — in other words, to grow or increase his ideas about his own inner self-worth.
To help him see the truth of himself as important and valuable, and so be able to forge healthier and more fortunate relationships for himself.
She is, in other words, helping him increase his inner Light. Joey’s climactic moment of narrative heroism in Act 1 coincides with her most intense use of her natural powers yet.
It might seem odd that she’s doing this to benefit Xefros — but there’s two factors to consider here. The first is that Xefros’ own Class — that of the Page — naturally invites others to be inclined to help him this way. Take my word for that, and we’ll revisit the subject as soon as we can in Xefros’ own Classpect post later.
The second is that Joey will need him in the road ahead no matter what she does next. So even though the Maid’s intrinsic tendency to act for her own benefit isn’t a hard rule anyway, this particular action arguably qualifies.
More interestingly, though, is that it brings us to the question:
Now that she’s in Alternia, what WILL Joey Claire do next?

SHOWTIME — THE DANCE OF THE GREEN STAR
We’re going to get into speculation territory here, which is something I’m generally averse to doing. But this is at least fairly well-grounded speculation! And I think it’ll give us at least some idea roughly what to expect for Hiveswap’s next coming acts.




So we’ve established that Joey wants attention, craves the spotlight, and has strong aspirations of Stardom. This is important off the bat, because the Cherub Portal that Joey gets sucked into at the beginning of Hiveswap actually serves another function as well: It’s a Wish-Granter.
In Homestuck, when Jane Crocker receives a Lollipop with the same red-green spiral, it momentarily flashes with the black and white twin-ouroborus serpents featured on the wish-granting amulet AURYN, from
The Neverending Story — a movie/book referenced several times in Hiveswap.

And who does Joey come across on the other side of the wish-granting portal? Xefros Tritoh, who is already in a band and from whom we’ve already seen suggestions of untapped singing potential. His AUTOTUNE MIC could well be holding him back.
And the ally Joey and Xefros are seeking out is likely to be Cridea Jeevik, of whom we know little about other than a presumed talent for memes.
So Joey is already seemingly being set up to be a performer of some kind on Alternia — meaning she’ll likely have her wish come true.
Alas, this will likely come at a cost.

When Jane uses the AURYN/Lollipop, it’s effects are an exaggerated version of AURYN’s in the book. It grants her wishes, but in a horrifying “be careful what you wished for” sort of way. Not unlike a monkey’s paw, such as that found in Pa’s attic.

Also worth noting is the apparent orchestrator of Xefros and Joey’s meeting. The character who talks to Joey through the hint buttons and provides Xefros with the Scratchware that protects his and Joey’s messages.

Doc Scratch is one of Homestuck’s primary antagonists — an omnipotent, omniscient Butler in service to an indestructible time-traveling demon known as Lord English.
He is also in many ways the ruler of Alternia, having subtly encouraged it’s development into the brutal and merciless culture we see during
Hiveswap: Act 1. Scratch is represented by the mysterious, featureless cueball in Xefros’ favorite sport, Arena Stickball.


Scratch is also an entity that we know from experience has a predilection for carrying out his work through young girls, and in particular, Light players.
His involvement with Joey is foreshadowed by the art painting of the ballerina Joey keeps by her closet — an 1878 Edgar Degas painting named ‘The Star’.
And he is unfortunately involved in the creation of one of Joey’s precious green star shirt symbol. Because a star is, of course, just a sun that’s far enough away.

And in Homestuck, Doc Scratch’s primary goal is in fact the creation of the Green Sun. He hasn’t done this yet in Hiveswap, but he will later on in Alternia’s future — it’s inevitable. And he knows it.
So it seems likely he is now looking to either foreshadow or repeat his main performance in the comic through the creation of a metaphorical
Green Star in Joey. If Joey performs, Scratch will be watching, and it’s a pretty solid guess that everything up until now has at least somewhat involved Scratch setting up her stage.
It’s hard to say what kind of negative consequences that might have for Joey, but Doc Scratch should not be mistaken for a kind man. Still, while I’m worried for her, I believe in Joey! And I’m excited to see her get to enjoy her time in the limelight, however long it turns out to last.
She’s been waiting long enough, after all.
Special thanks for this post have to go to thricequeen and dahni, the witch of light, since both made connections that helped me contextualize Joey’s arc so far for myself!
As for what comes next for me now, at the very least, you can expect to see this post in video form before I go on hiatus (more details in this post). I am excited to make similar Classpect posts on Xefros and Jude as soon as I’m able to.
Unfortunately, after this post I may be forced to go on hiatus for a while to get my economic situation under control! If you’d like to help me do so and want to see more writing and videos like this in the future, you can throw me a buck on Patreon. My readership has grown fairly wide and my expenses aren’t huge, so I’m not overstating it at all when I say every dollar counts.
Thanks so much for reading, and I hope you came away with a stronger grasp of Joey — a character that I think everyone deserves to love. I can’t wait to see you guys again, whenever that may be, but for now:
Keep rising.
whats the worst dammek fact you can tell us
he never buys his own socks he just takes home socks he finds and wears them without washing them
Hey so as far as i’m concerned this is Homestuck’s theme song but also, specifically, Joey Claire’s. thanks
Hiveswap Act 1 is really cute and it made me feel all nostalgic~
(I hope people won’t freak out seeing Homestuck on their dashboard again.)
bad news. shelby made a tweet saying they didnt have anything to do w the writing and added “i dont speak for WP” in their bio. im really worried ppl are just gonna be arguing abt joeys sexuality until act 2 comes out and either confirms or debunks the lesbian hc
aw man ok, i need to clear some things up because my wording in that post was pretty poor and now I feel kinda bad. I was excited I guess. But like this is probably overstating any impact I may have had by a fair measure? Buuut I really don’t like the idea of putting any of the good folks at wp in a position where they feel like they HAVE to make statements about stuff.
I also don’t think you got QUITE the message I did from the tweet when I went over to look at it, either, anon. Just in case, here’s a big disclaimer: I OBVIOUSLY don’t know shelby or necessarily what she might have intended! All I can tell you is that what I read gave me a different picture of where she was coming from, ok? This, along with everything I post and say about Homestuck, is just MY perspective on a property I happen to know a lot about because it raised me, but I don’t know really anyone at WP and nobody should assume I know what I’m talking about when I talk about what they say.
Are we clear on that? Ok. I’m gonna do something I REALLY usually don’t like doing and post the tweet for clarity’s sake.

This doesn’t sound like moving away from the Joey as lesbian hc to me.

What it sounds like is that in my post–and i don’t know if others made posts to this effect, i doubt it was just me but i’ve been loud in fandom recently so, maybe?–I credit her with being involved in the writing of Hiveswap through admittedly poor wording on my part. What I should have put the emphasis on is that last sentence–I think it’s pretty obvious that there were LGBT creators and women who KNOW the experience of growing up like this, and who’s collective experiences and camaraderie and mutual understanding influenced the text of the story, no matter who wrote the actual text.
That focus on community understanding, teamwork, and mutual solidarity is probably the single factor I’d credit most in Hiveswap’s writing being so powerful. And I think that’s likely what she’s pointing to. Shelby didn’t personally do any writing for Hiveswap, and she’s NOT the only lgbt person who worked on the game, so it’s absolutely true that not all the credit should go to her.
I wanted to thank her for tweeting about it in the first place and validating fandom suspicions, though, because that also mattered to me. And I’ll be honest: a bit of it is just the fanboy slipping out of me? I’ve been following Shelby–anyone affiliated with Homestuck as creators really–for most of my life growing up, since I was 16. I love Steven Universe and Neo-Kosmos is absolutely fantastic and brilliant (and by the way, if you’re hungry for more content while you wait for Hiveswap Act 2 GO READ NEO-KOSMOS??? ITS SO HOMESTUCK AND KIND OF STEVEN UNIVERSE AND AAAH).
So uh yeah. I get really excited and emotional and worked up and I’m not always PERFECTLY eloquent and making my points as a result. I feel bad about that in this case because I feel really weird about putting anyone at wp in a position they need to respond to, but really all this means to me is that thanks for hiveswap and joey should go to ALL the creators who worked so hard on Hiveswap and to craft this amazing character. Cohen wrote most of the literal text, but he made a tweet I’ll also post here only because it echoes a similar sentiment:

And retweeted a similar one:

And I think that perspective is rightfully deserved. Poinko, papers plase, james roach and toby and so many other people along with these two deserve all our thanks for working so hard under such durress to deliver not just an amazing product, but a thoroughly transcendent experience. The kind of story that changes the world for the better. That’s what I believe Hiveswap is, anyway.
I feel like somewhere along the way during the course of Homestuck, Hussie’s reputation as a troll and other stuff resulted in a culture prone to mixing genuine criticism and hurt with deeply-rooted irony and insincerity, and that only grew worse as the hiatuses and ending came about. At some point, we kind of forgot to praise creators for the work they do to entertain us, and I think doing so is…really important, personally. I’d like to see a return to a more appreciative and celebratory kind of fandom culture, if possible, on a personal level.
Also, to be clear, I don’t think any of this has any bearing on reading Joey. I wanted to thank Shelby for speaking up through her tweet and confirming what many already knew, but I am fundamentally a very DOTA focused Homestuck reader, and that’s carrying over to Hiveswap as well. I don’t think Joey is canonically a wlw because Shelby tweeted about it, although that was useful in a highly skeptical and highly Word of God focused fandom.
I think Joey is a wlw because little kids who play as her and fill her shoes and read about her feelings will definitely connect with the similarities between her experiences and theirs. Because she reminds me of knowing I was into boys and pretending otherwise except for the moments I prayed to god to make it go away, to make it stop, to change me. Because I feel in my heart that the text speaks for itself, and if you let go of the 20 layers of Tumblr ideology and ways the story is problematic and w.e and try to imagine thinking like a KID for half a second…you’ll see that too?
And that’s important. It’s maybe the most important thing that can happen right now, when our culture so sorely needs to understand itself in new ways.
So like. Props to you guys, @whatpumpkinstaff . Sorry if this is weird but well that tweet literally says to do this even if I’m shy so like…yea.
















