he seems to be a piss player but who the hell knows what that means. my mind boggles at trying to understand the power and meaning behind Piss, the secret and probably most powerful 13th aspect
Tag: Homestuck
It be me again. There’s just no escape. I feel super dumb and stupid and like a piece of stupid trash asking this but can I please have some proof that Jake *like* likes Dirk please if this question is too stupid please don’t make fun of me and just ignore it.
have i ever responded to a homestuck question by calling it stupid or making fun of someone?
Serious question. If I make someone feel stupid wrt Homestuck, I’m inclined to believe I’ve done something wrong, because that’s not what I’m here to do. This comic is overwrought and complicated and intricately woven, I’m just trying to make it easier for people like you (and I! I’m always learning more about the comic as I talk about it w/ other people) to parse.
it took me like seven years to feel like i even halfway understand this particular relationship and i still feel like i’m missing stuff wrt most of the comic, so I guess all I’m trying to say is…don’t worry bro? you’re good.
Anyway, the proof is brain ghost dirk.
Dirk isn’t actually present for the Game Over timeline’s events. We see him before Brain Ghost Dirk becomes real, talking to Arquis and trying to find out what’s going on.



The key point here is Dirk never shows any indication of being aware of Brain Ghost Dirk, even though in his last pesterlog before BGD’s appearance he’s trying to understand whats happening in the session and clearly wants to help however he can. It doesn’t make any sense to link Dirk’s agency to Brain Ghost Dirk’s here.

Which is important, since it means Brain Ghost Dirk is a product of Jake’s agency, including this line about Jake being his boyfriend. And this is after Dirk breaks up with him, implying Jake still thinks of Dirk that way, or still hopes they can get together.
It helps that “I am [Name], you [Verbed] my [Loved one], Prepare to die” is a pretty clear reference to The Princess Bride, a movie all about the pure power of love overcoming all obstacles so long as you believe in it. I’ve written about its relevance to reading Dirkjake before, though I wanna do better by the link someday:
This line is a movie reference to The Princess Bride, a romantic fantasy adventure comedy with a very curious dynamic between the romantic leads.
No shortage of people have pointed out how Jake seems to see himself as or end up in the positions of sexualized and marginalized female protagonists, but I think there’s a cause to be made Jake’s “arc” draws from this specific one–Buttercup–above all others. Buttercup’s romantic dynamic with Westley is simple: She issues requests to him, and he responds “As you Wish.”
This As you Wish is an explicit I love you, and the power of love is put forth as the source of Westley’s power and endless competence and ability throughout the entire story. It doesn’t matter what needs to happen, Westley finds a way to do it. And he does it because he believes in their love.
Buttercup, however, struggles to hold on to her faith that love can overcome all things possible and wavers in her commitment to living for it, ending up nearly trapped in an unwanted marriage. Buttercups’ arc is resolved when she chooses to believe in love even at risk of dying, promising never again to hide what she truly desires–Westley.
Jake perceives Dirk as his Prince Charming, an idea that could also be described as a Knight in Shining Armor.
im 99% sure ive talked about wp making a dirkjake character action game (like devil may cry 3 or bayonetta) before but now im thinking about the absolute romp of carnage and devastation that would be a character action game where you play as rose lalonde and kanaya maryam
a dirkjake one would be a bloodless SNES pixelated style beat em up with cheesy sound effects and gag weapons like the simpsons arcade game meets Bad Dudes meets Turtles in Time for some pistol whipping pizza flinging rough and tumble horse assery in the glass shard spattered weedy parking lot behind Whataburger
a rosemary one would be a darkly beautiful 1080p 60fps aesthetic romp with hand drawn sprites depicting horrifying purple blooded tentacle monsters splorching gore and smearing viscera across the camera lens while the erstwhile protagonists perform a mesmerizing dance of carnage across the demon fields of the dark pit
in both games the protagonists dramatically dip each other and make out upon the successful completion of each level
1000% yes, thanks
im 99% sure ive talked about wp making a dirkjake character action game (like devil may cry 3 or bayonetta) before but now im thinking about the absolute romp of carnage and devastation that would be a character action game where you play as rose lalonde and kanaya maryam
Hey, it’s me, can of soda. I was wondering, why do you like dirkjake so much? Like, what does it mean to you?
Haha, funny you should ask that. As it turns out, I’ve been planning to change things up a bit and make a couple videos that are a little…different. One of them concerns this. So I don’t want to answer you here, but here’s a little preview:

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There’s some news here for the tiny godtier army!
The extended zodiac revealed a lot of Life player, this is so great!!Also, we have more and more Hope and Light player!
And because they’re SO important to a session, I’m very happy to have a new Time and Space player in the army! 〜(꒪꒳꒪)〜
I was SURE I reblogged this ages ago but woops it looks like not, but hey guys check out the adorable mini godtier I got from the amazingly talented nightcigale!! Thanks to @commakaze for commissioning it on my behalf, too–you guys are awesome ^^
Would you please elaborate on Jake being subconsciously omniscient? Or, if you have elaborated before, would you direct me to that post? It sounds super interesting and you tend to have all of the Hottest Takes(TM) so I’m really curious
I have talked about it largely in my video on Denizens, yeah.
Dirk tells us that Jake has an intuitive sense of reality that Jake has no natural means to know, and no clear limit for this is provided in the text.
Jake’s numerous connections to his Denizen, Abraxas, and the far reaching symbolic imagery associated with Abraxas that Jake puts into the story suggest something about the full extent of his capabilities, though. Namely, Abraxas is a deity associated with duality, totality, and the absolute oneness of all things.
Abraxas is the great unseen imbued in everything. It is every idea that could ever possibly exist, or be imagined. Its imagery pervades Cherubs, Calliope and Caliborn, and the character of Andrew Hussie, and so it’s agents have a massive impact on the entirety of Homestuck.
Abraxas could be said to be the conceptual embodiment of Homestuck itself–the double ouroboros of the Cherubs, decreeing the law of Do As You Will. Jake’s Hope powers already echo descriptions of Abraxas from Jung’s 7 Sermons of the Dead, so it’s not much of a stretch to suggest his awareness of Homestuck is just another facet of that connection.
PS: This is why we should be excited for Limebloods. Karkat is also implied to have Abraxas as a Denizen, he also has links to both Cherubs, and Redbloods and Limebloods on Alternia seem to be a two-sides-of-a-coin thing as a result.
Whatever we learn about Limebloods is likely to be relevant to Karkat’s like…ancestral connection to trollkind,I wanna say? So yeah
Im trying to figure out my friends classpects and im able to see tons of options, any tips based on the class roles/personality things to help me narrow it down?
i always find it hard to classpect someone else because, unlike a character, you’re unlikely to have an objective and clear view at all of their actions and instincts. I find that classpecting for fandom/fun purposes is best done by the individual, because the most critical variable would be what your friend personally finds interesting.
Maybe show them the Archetypes if they’re interested, and see what they find compelling or enjoyable? That’s all I got rly
Gamzee Pt. 4 — Rage as Roleplay
This is a script draft that was used for the following video, and is missing picture assets as well as general polish:
This train of thought is a bit more speculatory, so I decided to keep it seperate from focusing on Gamzee’s character. But linking Rage to Homestuck’s Theatrical elements might also tell us about the abilities and powersets Rage players might exhibit, and that seems worth discussing on its own, so…here we are.
Obviously, reading Rage as the Aspect that rules over Homestuck’s reality as a play lends itself to Tex Talk’s theory of Rage as the Aspect that describes Plot Contrivance, and I could argue there’s even a link between the two in the text itself.
The MSPA Command Terminal that Caliborn and Gamzee unlock using the tragicomic mask keys allow Caliborn to talk directly with the author, Andrew Hussie — Specifically, the ghost of Andrew Hussie, who somehow communicates through the machine after being murdered by Lord English.
As the original author, he’s now the God in the machine operating the story of Homestuck, and his awareness of Homestuck’s larger context lets him give Caliborn the scoop, enabling his rise to power as Lord English in the first place.
This could be seen as an echo of Homestuck’s roots in Theatre as well:
The term “Deus Ex Machina”, or God in the Machine, originally refers to the practice whereby actors playing Gods would be entered into the play by an elaborate mechanism built into the theatre stage, usually by crane or a trapdoor.
The God character was often used at the end of a Tragedy, using their divine powers to wrap up remaining plot threads and bring the story to a close.
Now, of course, the term is used as shorthand for whenever a story resolves problems in highly unlikely and often surprising ways — and is often considered a hallmark of bad, contrived writing as a result.
Actually, this might solve a mystery nobody knew needed solving. A lot of fans assume the story’s logic breaks down with the dream bubbles, based on the perceived nonsensical absence of dream ghosts — mainly concerning four characters:
Meenah and Aranea, Vriska, and Gamzee. But Meenah and Aranea actually do have ghosts in the bubbles — both are present in the final army that faces Lord English.
Vriska only has (Vriska), which is kinda weird, but John’s retcon is bizarre enough that I can kinda believe it would collapse all potential versions of Vriska into the weird…schrodinger’s vriska setup the comic gives us.
Which leaves only Gamzee. If he’s aware of the mechanisms that run the theatre of Homestuck, then he may know about an obscure game mechanic. If a player goes to sleep at the end of a doomed timeline, like Rose does in the timeline that Davesprite came from, they don’t actually produce a ghost.
Instead, the player’s dreamself simply merges with the Alpha dreamself, and the player inherits all the memories of the doomed version. This might require that the player in question be the last one standing, which might be why Gamzee kills all the other trolls in at least one doomed timeline.
Whether he kills the others for this reason or not, if Gamzee outlives all the other trolls in every timeline in this manner, then we have canonical basis for Hussie’s statement that Gamzee hasn’t died in any timeline he’s aware of.
This would also mean Gamzee houses the conciousness of all his doomed selves, and that every single version of Gamzee would get to live out the truth that he is his own mirthful messiahs. No clown left behind…I guess?

But there’s something else I want to talk about.
If Gamzee views Homestuck as a play, then another facet of his power may be the ability to understand the various Masks that characters wear during their adventure — and the corresponding Roles they take on, as they perform their identities in relationship with the world.
Only in Homestuck, roles that define how characters Act are a codified game mechanic: Classes.
And I’ve recently found myself arguing that characters perform the behaviors of the Classes they’re assigned, but also often emulate — or try and fail to emulate — other Classes’ behaviors, through a mechanic I’ve taken to calling Roleplay.
Most characters only Roleplay classes they absorb through culture, whether it’s their interests or — more commonly — role model adult figures called Ancestors.
Having power over roleplay would make Gamzee uniquely dangerous, because it would give him the power to warp how other players see themselves and each other — confusing them by alienating them from their own true roles.




By inviting Terezi to adopt the persona of Redglare, he encourages her to take on the role of a Knight. As a result, Terezi gives a Knight’s performance in one of Homestuck’s theatrical Flashes — [S] Seer: Ascend. She’s even cast in another Knight’s shadow— imitating Dave’s own ascension flash.



It would also make him uniquely flexible. Understanding all the roles played in the story, Gamzee would be able to wear any of those masks to complete whatever objective is at hand. This is likely why Gamzee’s Jokerkind Specibus allows him to use every weapon.
He introduces himself to Jane with music boxes originally owned by Aradia Megido — A Maid, a class linked to the Fae archetype.
Maids and Sylphs are often referenced as imaginary beings, and this tends to include players committed enough to roleplaying one of the two — vampires, ghosts, gnomes, fairies, and in Gamzee’s case, he’s referenced as an elf during this stint.





The Fairy classes are associated with healing and creating new things. And Gamzee happens to perform this role— healing his troll friends by reviving them as Sprites, merging their personalities together in the process.




Later, Caliborn learns he’s immortal for arbitrary reasons that make no sense. Of course, it’s because he’s still relevant to later events in the story, and knowing this, Gamzee is aware he cannot die.
Wearing Fairy wings labeled with the masks of comedy and tragedy,
Gamzee evokes Maids as ones who are “Made of” their Aspect — in his case, Made of Rage: In this case, in the form of theatrical contrivance.
In the comic, Maids are repeatedly shown to have some passive self-ressurection or survivability perks, and Gamzee seems able to make use of that benefit by acting out the Maid’s role.



But all of Gamzee’s creations are abominations, and his form of “immortality” is brutal and painful for him, especially since his natural inclinations invite destruction — no matter what part he consciously tries to act out.
This is a common result of roleplay. Homestuck seems to lean on a “Know yourself first” approach to identity, as characters often confuse their own personalities with what they wish they were, commonly while trying to emulate an ideal or person they view with admiration.
This commonly leans to failure and confusion for Roleplayers, as their own instinctive tendencies come out even when they’re going for something entirely different.
Gamzee is subject to these negative effects, but to him, it doesn’t seem to matter. He’s just barely good enough at acting like these classes to accomplish the goals he sets out to achieve, and the rest of us just have to deal with it.

Of course, many would argue that Theater has nothing to do with Rage and everything to do with Gamzee belonging to the Purpleblood Caste, since several Purplebloods in Hiveswap share Gamzee’s clown motif and one pair even evokes the Comedy and Tragedy imagery.
Just as Xefros’ Rust-Blood status encourages him to think in terms of Time, I believe it’s possible these cultists are being societally pushed into thinking in terms of Rage, the Aspect of their Caste’s True-Sign — Capricorn.



So I’ll be interested in observing just how they relate to their own Aspects, and in seeing to what extent any of them are linked to Rage — not to mention comparing them to characters that we know are Rage-bound, such as our hero, Xefros Tritoh.
Off the top of my head, Sports and Wrestling share some similarities with theatre — the inherent artifice of the experience and the distinct roles for every participant to follow. One of my biggest inspirations, Supereyepatchwolf, has actually done a great video on the theatrical elements of wrestling you can check out here, if you’re interested.
I’m not necessarily claiming this interpretation of Rage is canon or anything — I just thought it’d be an interesting thing for you guys to talk about, and consider, as we get to know the trolls through the Hiveswap: Friendsim and Hiveswap: Act 2.
One thing I’m really, really confused about is when does Caliborn’s masterpiece take place, and are the beta kids who get sealed in the juju the same beta kids in act 7 who make earth c? Do you have recommendations for posts that would help someone “get” the ending? Also, how does LE cause everything that happens in HS? (Sorry, this is a lot, I just finished homestuck and I have a feeling I’m gonna be sending you a lot of questions, if that’s alright. Thanks!)
The Masterpiece takes place after the end of Homestuck–it’s probably circumstantially simultaneous with the final defeat of LE. Caliborn is taunting John in the credits to entice him to come fight him, since Caliborn knows the kid’s challenge will be the moment he becomes Lord English.
At some point in Earth C’s future, the kids go fight LE. The Epilogue will probably cover the Masterpiece in more detail, along with the moment the kids are released from the Juju they’re trapped in.
If you want to understand the ending, theres a couple good posts. @wakraya did a really sweet post on the ending from a metatextual perspective. Tex Talks did a good video talking about the symbolic imagery in Act 7.
And then there’s this stuff I wrote on the nature of LE and Homestuck’s story structure:
https://medium.com/@RoseOfNobility/apotheosis-and-creation-myth-2257d7bf5854
https://medium.com/@RoseOfNobility/part-4-gnostic-myth-literally-fucking-everything-769c1e57af22






