Okay so i finally started playing hiveswap (i know W a y too late) and since all the trolls in the friendsim have two aspects, one connected to their bloodcaste and one Real one, do you think it’s more likely that Joey is actually a light player who is influenced by Nana Egbert or a life player who is influenced by A. Claire (since she made all the star paintings?) it’s a bit vague since the flashlight is her old weapon (not current) and her love for animals makes her unhappy because of Pa

She’s definitely influenced by A. Claire (she outright says she wants to be just like her tons of times, after all), but hilariously enough that doesn’t actually help me figure out whether she’s getting Life or Light influence from her at the moment, for Reasons. 

The Alphas as Noble Gases — But Not How You Think

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Those of you who remember being in the Homestuck fandom back in 2012 to 2013 will no doubt remember the old Tumblr post that went around claiming the four post-scratch kids were like the noble gases due to their supposed inability to form bonds with each other. All too often I’ve seen this ancient piece of fanon used to support the idea that the alpha kids are not as close a group of friends as the beta kids are, and that somehow this makes them less likeable or worth paying attention to as the Acts 1-5 faves the original Homestuck fans knew and loved.

However, I have a proposition for any still listening out here, one that could turn the concept of “alpha kids as noble gases” on its head. What if I told you that the initial premise was false, but the conclusion was true? Leaving aside the individual identifications of each kid with a particular gas, let us concern ourselves with the four as a group.

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Would it be possible for you to elaborate on the Jane as the Savior of the Dreaming Dead theory you mentioned? What’s your thinking behind it?

There’s not a ton to it, just that the epilogue is probably going to give Jake time to shine if it covers the Masterpiece, and it would make sense to me if it gave the other most overlooked kid some time in the spotlight, too.

We’re probably going to see how the alpha kids will get out of the Masterpiece stage, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they end up in the Void where Vriska/Aradia/Sollux/Davepeta/Terezi/The Beta Kids are all likely to be, as well as the heroic remnants of the Ghost Army.

So there’s a bunch of doomed ghosts who just proved their heroism and worth around, and Jane has more or less willingly inherited a degree of responsibility for trollkind by taking over the Condesce’s company. And she can resurrect people. She’ll probably wanna help them, if the opportunity comes up!

Mostly I think this is likely not because of any particular plot beats, but because Homestuck’s themes point in that direction to me. At least, if I’m understanding the story correctly, I think it likely doesn’t believe anyone is worthy of absolute oblivion other than Caliborn.

If like, I’m thinking there’s a chance Gamzee gets revived or Arquis gets saved by Davepeta, then I definitely expect the troll ghosts to be saved, you know?

This is all ifs though, and its part of what makes waiting for the epilogue so exciting. It’s gonna tell us so much about Homestuck’s underlying philosophy wrt morality and the meaning of existence in Paradox Space, we’ll understand a lot more about what Homestuck has been Trying To Say this whole time, if that makes sense.

Do you think there’s a chance of anyone dying in the epilogue?

Possibly Caliborn (There might be a worse fate in store for him, stuck in a black hole for eternity), maybe Gamzee (he might get revived), maybe Arquis (There’s a chance Davepeta could snatch his components outta LE)

I think everyone else will be fine. Maybe more than fine, if my guess is correct and Jane turns out to be the savior of the dreaming dead all along.

Do you think that if your theory about Joey’s mother being a clone of Jane holds true and the alpha kids somehow manage to interact with the events of Hiveswap it could help Jane and Jake get some closure on their relationship? Because, frankly, I don’t feel like the ending gave them the proper closure.

Sure, maybe? If the story continues with the epilogue and beyond they could just get closure on their own terms, too. We’ll have to wait and see!

You’ve written before about the unhealthy, toxic dynamic that makes up Jake, Dirk, and Hal, and how for all intents and purposes it was essentially caused by the creation of hal himself – hal was miserable and isolated, so he acted controlling and toxic towards the Alpha kids, which caused them to treat him worse, etc. etc. This may not be your type of thing, and if so feel free to tell me, but what do you think the Alpha kids (and the dynamics thereof) would be like if hal was never created?

probably healthier overall (but still not healthy–all the Alphas had roles to play in hurting each other, as much as they cared), right up until they were all suddenly dead, since Hal is the only reason they made it through [S] Unite Synchronize.

I do find it kind of hard to get into these kinds of questions though. They’re not bad or uninteresting or anything, it’s just that the only answer my brain can really come up with is that they wouldn’t exist. Hal is a necessary component of the time loop that creates LE, and so the trolls and betas and alphas and everyone.

That’s the fundamental nature of LE’s evil and the core conflict that informs everything about Homestuck’s narrative, so I find it really hard to think around it, personally.