Hey everyone! Finally, here’s my post on Jane. I don’t really think this “fixes” Jane’s arc for those who aren’t pleased with it, and while I’m not exactly banking on it I am hopeful to see Jane’s story be expanded on in the Epilogue.
Still, I think there’s a lot about Jane that’s incredibly interesting to talk about, and I think Homestuck was attempting to go for something coherent with her ending, as well. I hope this post sways you in that regard, and that you come away with a more positive and fleshed out view of Jane as well.
If not, I hope you let me know why you disagree! Homestuck is always super fun to talk about.
Jade’s parental unit, as the Pattern Breaking parental unit, has a much larger variety of strange, off putting interests. Dad has FANCIFUL HARLEQUINS, Mom has EXSQUISITE WIZARDS, and Bro has RADICAL PUPPETS. Grandpa has not one, but FOUR such interests, of the same descriptive two word format. They’re all just as dumb though. One reason among several for this was to create an element of uncertainty over what kind of item Jade would prototype with . And by uncertainty, I mean misdirection, which is what I always mean by uncertainty.
Notice the colors of the lights in each room. Orange, pink, and cyan, corresponding with Dirk, Roxy, and Jane. The items have a loose correlation with the other three guardians too. Knights in that Dirk is a skilled swordsman. Roxy’s land is full of pyramids, Jane was grandpa’s long estranged blue lady. You see how the gears are always turning. Not only does everything mean something. It turns out everything means EVERYTHING. Now you know.
Andrew Hussie, Homestuck Book 3 Commentary
My pal @icel just sort of handed me the commentary for book 3, which is rad cause it turns out to confirm I’ve been right in arguing that Grandpa’s home decor reflects the Alphas for months. (Obviously doesn’t prove anything else linked there, though I stand by all of it. Just saying.)
I don’t normally argue based on Word of God cause I don’t like speculating pointlessly on Hussie as a person but hey! This is part of a product made for fans, and also it takes a lot of the legwork out of me getting to say I’m right, so like fuck it 😉
I mean Jade is also pretty self-explanatory, so at this point we’re down to Roxy and John, right? Roxy is PRETTY FUCKING THRILLED to see the birth of Jasprose, and I can’t really see her talking to Jade about furries and not being super down to draw herself as a catgirl even if she hasn’t yet.
I was almost about to admit there’s not actually THAT MUCH canon evidence of Roxy being a furry but then I remembered: She’s dating a snake girl. So yeah that ship sailed.
As for John, he literally bemoans his own lack of a furry alt-self in conversation with Rose.
So there I rest that case.
Also while it’s true I’ve said Jane isn’t a furry I should stress that comes with an appended Yet, because really the girl already made a Trollsona. Just wait until Jade has a furry themed birthday, it’s just a matter of time.
And it is my personal conviction that all these different species are mutually furries to one another anyway, because like. They are.
Thinkin bout how [S] Credits confirmed Roxycallie and Dirkjake to pretty much the exact same degree: Showing them living together and being the primary establishers of their respective kingdoms and giving us a show of close physical contact
this aint like deep or anything it just makes me happy
heres some other snapchats i think are severely underappreciated
Rose enacting some lewd as fuck pornographies. Caliborn would burn. Kanaya looks like she already had wayyy too much cake
I literally didn’t even notice this until just now but this is Dirk complimenting Jake’s craftsmanship!! What’s nice is Jake’s sick new robot that Jake made!! Or is it….jake himself???
its both and its cute. i love dirk thanks
john left the clown pictures up all this time…give the boy his dad back 😦
i dont have anything to say about this one either i just like it. cans will obey
i will say that i’ve heard somewhere that jane could be talking about ectobiology here. and she could be. but i think her comments on jake’s body give it a sexual meaning, and also, if the roles were reversed and it was a guy saying, “your only value is being hot and i’m going to force you to have children with me,” it would not be ambiguous.
(also the prime time of jake’s life was after the brobot was in it which reveals that he never really found the robot more of an annoyance and inconvenience at times and certainly not as a sexual threat. because jake is scared right now, and i posit that if the robot really had been that kind of threat, jake would not be wishing to return to a time where it was in his life but i digress.)
“no, why does everyone want to kiss me? aranea, stop!”
context: this is after the conversation with crockertier jane. aranea has said before that she knows jake is attracted to her. she is about to “heal” jake and turn his hope powers up to maximum radiance and was going to do it by kissing him. jake Does Not Want to be kissed.
this is brain ghost dirk, during jake and crockertier jane’s conversation.
“look at our god tier pajamas. i look really stupid and it’s weird that my leg hair is gone! but i think your pajamas are decent.”
(and then like twenty minutes later brain ghost dirk, who canonically represents jake’s subconscious desires and understanding, calls himself jake’s boyfriend.)
like you don’t have to care or believe me. i’m sure i skipped some things but these conversations which all happen really close together have always really stuck out to me. but i’m just saying, please listen to what jake is actually saying and thinking. he’s not scared of dirk.
Yeah I keep hearing people say “It’s common to want to be protected by someone you’re scared of it’s a common facet of abuse” which is great and all except Jake…literally never once makes a comment even remotely implying he’s scared of Dirk, or really the Brobot for that matter.
Also worth noting Jake wants to go back to when he was dealing with “being tackled by a feisty robot”, not, say, back to when he was with his Grandma. The way Jake reacts to Jane and Aranea and describes Brobot also casts a lot of doubt on the idea that the Brobot’s “tender” behavior was anything other than some pretty chaste romantic overtures.
Also: People have argued this is Jane line is about ectobiology? Sorry to burst bubbles, but it’s not. She references the trickster mode “zillion babies” thing, which explicitly describes sexual relations. This is Jake being threated with sexual assault. It’s not particularly ambiguous.
I’m glad you wrote this out cause I’ve been meaning to write a post about how Jake literally never implies being scared of Dirk even a little. Thanks
i was afraid she’d look too similar to jade so i tried making her look older!
9 hot mom janey expressions! i’ve got all the alpha kids lined up so look forward to it! (bonus sprites like canon trollsonas and tricksters to come even later!)
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Flying through Storytelling 