So you said previously that you believe (with evidence) that Alternian society pushes trolls to be more akin to their “true aspect”. Would this maybe be a reason why Lime bloods were destroyed from the system, because they were forced to be linked to the Blood aspect, meaning that they were better at bringing peace and unity?

maybe. another way to look at it is that the genocide forces all remaining limebloods to think about their Blood quite intensely, above and beyond other trolls–not unlike Karkat

Would you please elaborate on Jake being subconsciously omniscient? Or, if you have elaborated before, would you direct me to that post? It sounds super interesting and you tend to have all of the Hottest Takes(TM) so I’m really curious

I have talked about it largely in my video on Denizens, yeah.
Dirk tells us that Jake has an intuitive sense of reality that Jake has no natural means to know, and no clear limit for this is provided in the text.

Jake’s numerous connections to his Denizen, Abraxas, and the far reaching symbolic imagery associated with Abraxas that Jake puts into the story suggest something about the full extent of his capabilities, though. Namely, Abraxas is a deity associated with duality, totality, and the absolute oneness of all things.

Abraxas is the great unseen imbued in everything. It is every idea that could ever possibly exist, or be imagined. Its imagery pervades Cherubs, Calliope and Caliborn, and the character of Andrew Hussie, and so it’s agents have a massive impact on the entirety of Homestuck.

Abraxas could be said to be the conceptual embodiment of Homestuck itself–the double ouroboros of the Cherubs, decreeing the law of Do As You Will. Jake’s Hope powers already echo descriptions of Abraxas from Jung’s 7 Sermons of the Dead, so it’s not much of a stretch to suggest his awareness of Homestuck is just another facet of that connection.

PS: This is why we should be excited for Limebloods. Karkat is also implied to have Abraxas as a Denizen, he also has links to both Cherubs, and Redbloods and Limebloods on Alternia seem to be a two-sides-of-a-coin thing as a result.

Whatever we learn about Limebloods is likely to be relevant to Karkat’s like…ancestral connection to trollkind,I wanna say? So yeah

This may be a bit weird, but have you ever noticed any particularly noteworthy Limeblood and Jadeblood connections before? Excluding obvious cases like Kanaya and (technically) Karkat being close, Dolarosa and Sufferer, etc. I ask only because I myself am a Virgo and feel drawn to and associate strongly with the qualities of Jades, yet as long as I’ve known about them, and especially recently, I find myself very compelled by the nature, lore & qualities of Limebloods. Hope this all made sense.

Not other than the ones you mentioned! But I’m interested in seeing what relationships Limebloods have in the next Hiveswap acts, so this is def something to look out for.

how about we start asking the real questions, like:

do limebloods have troll powers and if so, could karkat develop them

What’s your thought on everyone saying that Karkat has lime blood? The Extended Zodiac categorized him in the lime blood category, but it stated that True Cancer is special and transcends the sign class. It was even shown in the comic that Karkat has candy-red blood. That should imply that only the TRUE Cancer has red blood, as opposed to lime. Right?

1) Yes, only the True Cancer has Red blood. I mean. It’s the sign of the Signless. Only the Signless and Karkat have red blood, and only they are linked to the sign of…the Signless.

As far as people saying Karkat has limeblood, I basically think it’s funny as fuck. Karkat has candy red blood, guys. We’ve literally seen it in the story.

But that doesn’t mean the association isn’t important. Recently, understanding Jake as symbolically connected to Abraxas had started to make me see some interesting things in his relationship to the Cherubs. I believe @betweengenesisfrogs is working on a post about what I’m talking about, so maybe tune in to her if you’re curious.

But to make a long story short, it’s long been speculated that Karkat’s denizen, like Jake’s, was Abraxas. This because Abraxas was understood as the “weakest” Denizen to counteract Yaldabaoth’s “strongest”. This is a reductive take that misses the point, but the connection itself is valid. Basically, I believe that due to Jake’s nature as a representative of Abraxas, he has a very interesting impact on and relationship with both Calliope and Caliborn.

Since Karkat might have had Abraxas too and was a Blood Player, I had recently begun to give more credence to the common pop theory that Karkat was connected to Limebloods in some way, since it would connect him to both Calliope and Caliborn’s Blood.

Suffice it to say, this upd8 (and that is what this is, make no mistake) has confirmed that completely. And that implies some very interesting things about Karkat’s relationship to the Cherubs, and to the mysterious possible First Guardian on Alternia, who is an Axolotl and apparently associated with Limebloods. Check out that link on Jake if you want an idea what I mean. Basically, I think Karkat has grounds to lay claim to the Limeblood’s legacy, and to be considered a “Lord of Amphibians”, in some respect. I’m awful curious to know more about that First Guardian all of a sudden.

Okay I lied because while reading abt lime bloods I only just realized THAT THE WHOLE POINT OF KARKAT BEING A MUTANT WAS SO THAT THE LIME CASTE COULD SURVIVE TO THE NEW UNIVERSE AND THAT WAS KARKAT FULFILLING HIS ROLE AS A KNIGHT OF BLOOD. like previously I had thought the ‘purpose’ of his mutation was just so that he could exist post genocide at all. Also thinking of the Knight class as active blinded me from this too so Ty for that. This has been a PSA for anyone else who missed this

An interesting idea, hm! I hope we get to see Limebloods on Earth C down the line sometime soon.