So here’s the theories

https://taksynator.tumblr.com/post/162956042466/homestuck-theory https://taksynator.tumblr.com/post/163353494091/another-homestuck-theory https://taksynator.tumblr.com/post/165287519776/masterclass-thoughts thanks in advance for reviewing them ^u^

@taksynator No problem, it’s a pleasure! If you don’t mind, I’ll outline my thoughts here:

https://taksynator.tumblr.com/post/165287519776/masterclass-thoughts

https://taksynator.tumblr.com/post/163353494091/another-homestuck-theory

As for these two, I agree pretty much entirely! I think absolute power over a particular domain is well within the description of both Muses and Lords–though I will admit, the thing about Lord English and the sand kind of lost me a little? i didn’t quite follow. I’d say that their domains in Homestuck are, well. Homestuck itself. IE-The narrative.

I also agree that Lords and Muses find themselves dealing in their complementary (saying “inverse” brings us too close to inversion theory for me, I think, but it’s as good a descriptor as any) Aspect as well, I think that’s a sweet catch on your part. Lord English is demonstrably interested in Space, after all–going so far as to give himself first guardian powers.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1naZNQSZTcpOEABFeh-V6JRmY_YwyLE9DQDMpBQ4A9RY/edit

As for this compilation of the Classes, It was quite the interesting read! For the most part we agree, and I think the Aspect “gauges” are an interesting way to visualize classpect dynamics. I like it a lot! There’s a couple of things I’m not sure I remember too well–I don’t remember Kanaya making clothes for anyone but Vriska, who did most definitely wear the fairy dress she made her, for example.

But the only thing I really disagree with is the conception of Knights and Pages. I’m pretty well on record as thinking Knights and Pages are best described by the verb Serve, and that Knights are Passive, with Pages as Active.

I also think that “buffs”/”debuffs” as a concept are probably best applied to the spectrum of Passive classes, though I definitely agree the concept applies pretty strongly to the Steal/Serve (in your reading Move/Use) quartet of classes.

All in all these were a fun read and really interesting! Thanks for sharing :))

Secondly how sure are you that calliope is a reliable source. She may be for the good of the kids, but she spent her time theorizing, and has admitted her theories were false, and holding back information, while simultaneously ignoring caliborn, who despite wanting to force himself to succeed, took a liking to Jake and revealed information about the page, claiming they are to serve, both serve their aspect, serve their allies, and to serve via ass kicking, and he had no quarrels with spoilers.

I’m pretty sure Caliborn’s information came from going back and reading through Calliope’s archives, if I remember right? He told Jake he did so in that conversation I believe, but I’ll have to check later.

I am completely certain Calliope is mostly reliable. She’s wrong about one thing–the Gender distributions–and those she draws from the pools of the session she has available. But Ying/Yang principles are posited to be a universal tenet of Homestuck’s reality (and many people believe our own reality too), so if Calliope is inclined to see the Class system that way, I think it’s very likely she’s right about it.

The other thing is that without being able to trust Calliope, Homestuck’s Class system really IS broken and incomprehensible. If you believe her, then suddenly it makes total sense and is absolutely fascinating and has practically limitless depth. From a writing perspective, why would Hussie go to the trouble to including all of that in logs if we were meant to completely dismiss her?

Basically I think Homestuck is a well-told story, so here where the information is delivered with care, time and attention and lines up perfectly with Homestuck’s wider themes and mechanics, I think it’s worth just taking the alien girl at her word.

Interesting theroy. But I have a few quarries about it. First off I was wondering why you placed pages as active and knights as passive. I personally see them as switch (going from active to passive and vice versa) with the Knight defending their persona and growing to take it off and protect their allies, and pages starting allowing themselves to be used by others and growing to allow themselves to actually take charge for themselves.

Well, that would be Spoilers™ so for the most part I’m gonna abstain from answering and say that you’ll know why I placed them where I did within the next couple weeks–looking like next week if the current votes are anything to go by.

But I will say I don’t think you’re too far off! The nature of the Active/Passive spectrum factors in here, and hopefully once you see the post you’ll know what I mean 😉