hi! me and my friend have long considered Gamzee more as a plot device/deus ex machina than a character with an actual personality that makes logical sense. we were looking up Whistles (see MSPA wiki) and think that Gamzee is… apparently just a giant callback? A private joke? A character moved to the wrong universe, warped to fit the narrative? we’re going to get our hands on the actual book ASAP, but I figured if any blog could start meta discussion over it w/ owners, it was yours.

I will say that my friend @hussianphilosopher made some points about Gamzee I thought were compelling, and on my agenda is moving that little Tumblr post over to Medium with a few expanded sections on Gamzee and Damara.

I’ve known about Whistles, and yeah I agree that Gamzee is definitely a giant callback to that in many ways. But honestly I really don’t like the idea that any character in homestuck is just a plot device/makes no sense–Equius is an extended humanimals reference in a bunch of ways, but he’s still also a character who has depth and intrigue and a coherent personality, as Tex Talks breaks down excellently here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjZtB2i8vR0&t=50s&ab_channel=TexTalks

HOWEVER, If I were to accept that any character in Homestuck is contrived and nonsensical and exists only to be a joke, it would be Gamzee. It’s just that I believe that perception is intentional, and in itself part of his character arc. Tex Talks may help get across why I think so here, as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H7m23gkAe4&ab_channel=TexTalks

if you consider void, in the broadest sense, to be nothingness, that nothingness isn’t inherently physical and tangible, it doesn’t have to be. If apathy doesn’t fall into hope or rage, it could fall under void’s domain because it is an inherent lack of something, in this case caring. Maybe void is just defined by absense.

Makes sense to me, yeah. Which I guess brings us back around to Void contrasting everyone which…rip. I promise I’m not trying to be obtuse and cyclical I just…am continually reassessing and changing my mind about this stuff, it’s so fascinating and cool though im glad people are sending me asks and talking about it xD