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revolutionaryduelist:

ao3sburbanite:

revolutionaryduelist:

FUCK yeah that’s really goddamn legit and now I want to know if Jane’s and Roxy’s are as on point too because my guess is: probably

Helium builds up pressure in balloons until they fucking pop??? fits with Jane at least somewhat. Hit me up if you think of any more

Neon is used to illuminate – neon lights are bright and funky but also used to highlight important things? Could be a metaphor for Roxy showing everyone on her team the way (and also getting frustrated because it’s super obvious to her but they somehow don’t see it).

Helium is an easier one, I think. Inhaling helium makes your voice artificially high (and cheerful sounding and funny), but the effect wears off pretty fast. It’s only a facade of relentless cheerfulness, if you like.

Krypton is indeed an asphyxiant, but so are all of the noble gasses. Breathing them in displaces the oxygen in your lungs and you die, not because of a poison reacting chemically with your body, but because the ‘air’ you’re breathing can’t sustain you.

I wonder if this is related to the kids’ isolation, if they all feel suffocated by their own personalities and problems. Dirk’s world is the only one shown that requires gas masks, though, and the only one where a visitor is affected enough to need one, so it’s safe to assume that Dirk (at least in his own mind) has the biggest issues with his problems and feeling like he’s suffocating those around him.

Yeah, I’m inclined to agree with all of this. Wondering if anything else on Neon will pop up, but Helium definitely lines up with Jane’s behavior quite a lot as well. Wonder why I haven’t heard this stuff mentioned sooner, honestly?

A very quick look at the Wikipedia article for Neon did throw up a couple of thematically interesting things that chime with Roxy’s powers:

– Neon is a very common element in the universe (the fifth most common by volume), but very rare indeed on Earth.

– The only way to obtain pure Neon is to fractionally distillate it from (liquid) air – from “thin air” if you like.

– The name “neon” is Greek for “new”

All of these things seem thematically consistent with the idea of stealing nothingness from the void (so as to make things real), but I’m probably reaching here. After all, the Noble gasses were selected for the Alpha’s planets due to their intertness (fitting for a void session) and there are only six to choose from.

While I’m doing some reaching, however, the two that gasses are not used for the alphas: Radon (radioactive and carcinogenic – decays into dangerous Uranium and Thorium), and Argon (the name of which means “inactive”, used as a shielding gas to contain radioactive materials) seem more suitable for the other two characters whose souls are entangled with the void session – Caliborn and Calliope.

Maybe if they’d succeeded in their joint session (which, as a doomed timeline session would almost certainly have been null or void), these would have been components of their planets.

this is a thing that just struck me now, regarding Lands and their owners — you know how LOTAK’s krypton is sometimes said to symbolize dirk’s suffocating/toxic tendencies (since krypton is both narcotic and asphyxiant)? an argument can be made for the xenon on LOMAX symbolizing something about jake as well. xenon gas is actually a potent anaesthetic when inhaled, perhaps signifying jake’s thing for willfully feigning obliviousness as though he were drugged/sedated

ao3sburbanite:

revolutionaryduelist:

FUCK yeah that’s really goddamn legit and now I want to know if Jane’s and Roxy’s are as on point too because my guess is: probably

Helium builds up pressure in balloons until they fucking pop??? fits with Jane at least somewhat. Hit me up if you think of any more

Neon is used to illuminate – neon lights are bright and funky but also used to highlight important things? Could be a metaphor for Roxy showing everyone on her team the way (and also getting frustrated because it’s super obvious to her but they somehow don’t see it).

Helium is an easier one, I think. Inhaling helium makes your voice artificially high (and cheerful sounding and funny), but the effect wears off pretty fast. It’s only a facade of relentless cheerfulness, if you like.

Krypton is indeed an asphyxiant, but so are all of the noble gasses. Breathing them in displaces the oxygen in your lungs and you die, not because of a poison reacting chemically with your body, but because the ‘air’ you’re breathing can’t sustain you.

I wonder if this is related to the kids’ isolation, if they all feel suffocated by their own personalities and problems. Dirk’s world is the only one shown that requires gas masks, though, and the only one where a visitor is affected enough to need one, so it’s safe to assume that Dirk (at least in his own mind) has the biggest issues with his problems and feeling like he’s suffocating those around him.

Yeah, I’m inclined to agree with all of this. Wondering if anything else on Neon will pop up, but Helium definitely lines up with Jane’s behavior quite a lot as well. Wonder why I haven’t heard this stuff mentioned sooner, honestly?

this is a thing that just struck me now, regarding Lands and their owners — you know how LOTAK’s krypton is sometimes said to symbolize dirk’s suffocating/toxic tendencies (since krypton is both narcotic and asphyxiant)? an argument can be made for the xenon on LOMAX symbolizing something about jake as well. xenon gas is actually a potent anaesthetic when inhaled, perhaps signifying jake’s thing for willfully feigning obliviousness as though he were drugged/sedated

FUCK yeah that’s really goddamn legit and now I want to know if Jane’s and Roxy’s are as on point too because my guess is: probably

Helium builds up pressure in balloons until they fucking pop??? fits with Jane at least somewhat. Hit me up if you think of any more

vriskart:

HAPPY 413

Do you think the – highly reactionary – responses to Jane and Roxy’s flaws being out of proportion with the much calmer responses to Jake and Dirk’s flaws is based in misogyny? Because looking through discourse, it seems that Jake stans in particular refuse to let anyone criticize the boys, whereas especially the Jane hate as of late has been centered on her “versus” Jake?

landofsomethingsomething:

Any time it comes to a female character being judged for her flaws you are going to see some level of misogyny. Conversely, any time you see for instance a gay man being judged for his flaws you are going to see some level of homophobia. It’s impossible for me to make any blanket statements about what sentiments come from where (and even if sentiments are coming from somewhere shitty, how much of that is internalized? How much of it is subconscious? How much of it is just unexamined repetition of an argument someone else made that the person repeating might not even realize originated with misogynist or homophobic roots?)

So, yeah. I see plenty of obvious bad faith discoursing in the fandom, sure, but the question of what antis are more vicious and why is really subjective. Depending on what circles you hang out in and what tags you browse and who you do or don’t have blocked on this egregious hell site, you’re going to have different experiences. I have no idea what the unfiltered fandom looks like anymore because I need to heavily curate my dash for my own damn sanity’s sake.

Like, by my own experiences, I would not call the common fandom reaction to Dirk Strider’s flaws “calm” by any measure or even the most loose definition of the word. From where I’m standing, the only character guaranteed to generate more unproductive discourse than Dirk is Vriska, lmao.

This is mostly how I would’ve tried to respond to you as well, anon. I’ll answer you in my own way but in fandom terms this is p much how I think about it.